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Title: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Spartan on July 21, 2014, 07:14:51 PM
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(http://www.redplanet.gr/fans_point_of_view/article2936804.ece/BINARY/w620/tria.jpg)

According to RP, he cost us half a mil....
Title: Re: Kosas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: MegasAlexandros on July 21, 2014, 08:33:57 PM
Thread title needs to be fixed... 'Kostas' ;)
Title: Re: Kosas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on July 22, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
Had hopes for this kid after watching some of his performances with the NT. Hopefully he can contribute something for us.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on July 22, 2014, 04:13:01 PM
I hope he gets some solid minutes. If he don't play, then he won't develop. If that's the case then he should be loaned out to a lesser team but gets lots of playing time. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Antegeia7 on September 03, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
Welcome back Kosta!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 04, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
once he's up to par (don't forget he barely had a preseason training) I think he'll be very helpful and will surprise many

I believe in Kwsta, he's a much improved player..long season, work hard and you will get rewarded Fortouni!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Adrastos on September 08, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
I agree gavre, I was very impressed when he represented Ethniki in 2012, he was one of the best players.  Great passes and had his head right, he can turn out to be a great player.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 23, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
very average game today..if he doesn't grab the opportunity in these type of games when will he??

I think he needs some minutes so he can get into some type of rhythm..i still believe he can help us but he needs to stop playing like a gataki...get some tsampouka in your game mikre..you're wearing the heaviest fanela in all of Greece
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 23, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
I only managed to watch the first half of the cup game but he didn't stand out (good or bad).

However I caught the last 5 minutes of the second half and the commentator said he was by far our best player in the half and made the biggest impression. Quite a few Olympiakos sites picked him out as the bright spot today, and Michel's comments seem to be very complimentary of him.

Once he gains match fitness and chemistry we will see more, he seems to be good depth to me.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 24, 2014, 06:04:42 AM
a coach saying that his player lacks conditioning and needs to improve on it, is not 'very complimentary of him'..i'm just saying!! ;)

for a kid that lived, trained and played in Germany, this is inexcusable...now if you heard that the vazelochannel was complementing Fourtouni, then I guess I should get my ears checked!LOL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 26, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
The season is long, and we see some players take a while before really hitting their groove with the new club.  Recent years have seen examples like Fuster, Modesto, Makoun, Orbaiz… Hard player to figure out, I definitely think there is skill there and he can be a good player for us, but something is missing, right?

Be interesting to see how it plays out...
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 27, 2014, 03:39:20 AM
I'd love nothing more than a player from our academy to step up and become an important player in our roster.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on November 01, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Really liked him today, great presence for me in the midfield. His role should be like Chori's, like we saw in the first half. I don't know why Michel asked him to come further back later in the game. Hope he keeps up a good form, he can be a special player, I think.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 03, 2014, 08:05:37 AM
^if anyone can explain why Michel pulled his best player in Tripoli, I would like for them to explain it to me too!

another great match by Fortouni..pernei fora!! the only thing holding him back is his lack of conditioning and strength
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on November 03, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
^^ ela nte! I too didn't get it, also we saw a big change in the quality of our free kicks once he came out, I didn't like Durmaz in that role, I would have had Fuster take the direct kicks.

I dot think he is resting Fortounis for the Juve match either with Chori expected to play. You're right, should've stayed in the match.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 03, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
Fortounis is not on the CL roster.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on November 03, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
^^ my bad, even more of a reason that he shouldn't have been taken out of the game in my mind.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 03, 2014, 10:15:22 PM
amen!! Michel's behavior cannot be explained this season..or can it? i have an idea, but i'll wait to see how our season unfolds
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 03, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
Fortounis is not on the CL roster.
I thought Fortounis was on the CL registered as a player  from our academy.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 03, 2014, 10:55:29 PM
fortouni will be on the roster in the next round..i'm sure of it

even though Fortouni came from our academy, he left too young, therefore he is not considered "club-trained'', only ''association-trained''
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 30, 2014, 11:16:10 AM
He came and pleasantly surprised. Great passing and vision. Fortounis can play.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 30, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
very nice assist, the weight on the pass was great
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on November 30, 2014, 06:12:14 PM
Keep it up, Kwsta.  You have a lot to offer this club, and this club can be where you realize your potential.  I have faith that he may be a future captain of our team in a few years if things go well…  I really like this player.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 01, 2014, 04:10:16 AM
best position ? behind the strikers? I really liked  what I saw of him today. He has a good pass, good vision and can dribble.
He's won me over with just 1 half that I saw of him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 01, 2014, 08:41:51 AM
best position ? behind the strikers?

absolutely..if he works hard he's our future dekaraki! I'd love to see him get stronger though, he'll be alot better in all aspect if he does
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 06, 2014, 03:59:40 PM
I don't know why he was replaced today, he was one of our better players.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 06, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
you ask why??it's all that fake tan shit Michel's putting in his body..shit is seeping thru his pores and damanging his brain
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on December 07, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
Fortounis is going to be a good player for us.  He's already showing his class in the chances he's getting.  Keep it up, Kosta.  He still has a lot of room to grow though…  Agreed, should've stayed in the game.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 07, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
Michel said that Fortounis was ''dead'' on the field that's why he replaced him!! mas trollarei o coach!! he deliberately wants us dropping points..it's not the first time that he pulled out our best players during a game!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 07, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
What was with the comment Michel made that we scored with him off the pitch?

He took the game by the scruff of the neck, was the only one trying to make a difference, and was the best player to boot and you go out and make him sound like the weak link?

He did look to tire and lost a little bit of influence in the 10 minutes prior to being taken off, but still he was doing more than the others.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 07, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
Michel's head is so inflated leme!! he's patting himself in the back that he took Fortouni out and we took the lead after that!!

NOT EVEN ONE PERSON HAS SAT THIS MOUNI DOWN TO TELL HIM THAT HE'S NOT ABOVE THE EFHVO!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 07, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
What was with the comment Michel made that we scored with him off the pitch?


That was a big fail comment in my opinion. And Michel normally speaks well but it seems with the pressure on him lately  hes throwing in his malakies these days.
Our 2nd goal came off a corner.
Fortounis was our best player.  I hope that comment is  not an indication of things to come for Fortounis because he has won me over and I can see the guy  become a regular starter for us.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 08, 2014, 08:19:59 AM
^i just hope we don't ''lose'' Fortouni b/c of Michel's idiotic comment!! Roberto seems to not be doing well mentally either!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 09, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Get this guy on the Europa roster I say
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 18, 2015, 07:12:02 PM
IMO he passed the test today and proved that he belongs with the starters..the skill, vision and ability to push the ball forward is not ''greek-like" at all..our future 10araki!! he will have a great career..if he only doesn't stop working..improve on the physiological aspect and you will write HISTORY mikre!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 25, 2015, 06:51:19 PM
that look in his eye......

(http://www.olympiacos24.gr/photos/w_800px/201501/0b7e4b_1197731.jpg)

we have found our next leader
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on January 25, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
He's got to keep working hard to keep improving. Being grounded and hard work is critical. Don't be like the Greek prima donna's of the past and let their heads grow to big.

I'm looking forward to Kostakis' development in the short term
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 25, 2015, 07:22:22 PM
^absolutely!! good post file!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on January 28, 2015, 12:53:35 AM
very good player who looks to be able to finish this season well and really blossom next year
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on January 30, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
I'm liking how he is being used and giving a terrific chance to grow as a key player.  Our fear is always will a young Greek player on Olympiakos begin to develop a huge ego and think his spot will be there regardless of work and effort.
Time will tell !!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 04, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
The more I see of this guy the more  I like what I see. Great skills  with a good football brain and no slouch.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on February 05, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
This kid has the goods. I thought he was a waste of a signing and he has proved me wrong 100%. Keep working hard Kostaki, you will earn everything that's coming to you. He wil be the #10 for Olympiakos and the Ethniki for years the way he is going.... Bravo tou.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 05, 2015, 07:02:40 PM
Going to Germany was good for him. He may not have done aswell as he hoped but had he come here from Asteras I don't think he would have grown up like he did.

question becomes, is he the heir to Chori next year or do we still need a bam and continue Fortounis in rotation till he proves it for 1.5 years. Or do we retain Chori and start them 50-50. he can put alot of this to rest if he is a standout to close the year.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 05, 2015, 07:13:07 PM
I would go for the latter. Retain Chori and let Fortounis learn  and develop with Chori next to him. 
Chori definitely has another year if not 2 , he is playing at a high standard.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: G7oz on February 05, 2015, 11:17:30 PM
Yeah I agree aswell, Chori hasn't really showed any signs of slowing down would love to hold onto him for another season after this and use Fortounis at the same time (as you guys mentioned). Only thing is I get the feeling the Chori wants to finish up in Argentina.. Hopefully he stays atleast another season before he does that. As for Fortounis, seeing his development has been good too see, real quality player exciting future at the club for the kid!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 14, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
It wasn't just the 2 nice goals he scored today, Fortounis shows qualities of a CLASS player.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 15, 2015, 10:00:47 AM
dont foget that he almost ''lost'' this paixtara thanks to Michel!! kudos to the paixtara for working hard..he was raised his game to another level recently!!

oozing class!! megali upo8esh o paixtis autos!!! o Fortounaros kai ta matia mas!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 27, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
ready to have a breakout season next year!! if this kid works hard during the offseason and makes significant gains in strength and conditioning, it will be hard for the coach not to give him a starting role
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on May 23, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
What a beautiful free kick . This kid will only get better also.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on May 25, 2015, 12:37:46 AM
he was a joy to watch this season, really scored some beauties. on redplanet they always have pictures of him at lower league games and what not, clearly a student of the game who loves his craft.

shadowing chori for another year, and some added responsiblity will do wonders for him. bravo Kosta
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on June 11, 2015, 07:07:30 PM
http://www.rednews.gr/permalink/63527.html (http://www.rednews.gr/permalink/63527.html)

Fortounaros picked up an injury in training for the NT it looks like and won't play against the Faroe Islands.  How many of our players end up getting injured while playing for the NT???  I'm always holding my breath when these guys play on the team.  Fortounis is way to valuable to get hurt.  Hopefully this is nothing serious...
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on June 11, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
injury hurt us but as a player they learn olot playing in international matches especially when they are young bucks.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on July 16, 2015, 08:34:32 PM
with martinez and dominguez in the squad, i think Fortounis will be playing more left mid than anything this year
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on July 16, 2015, 11:12:42 PM
He did well wherever he was asked to play. I'm hoping he keeps working hard and improves because he has a lot to offer.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on July 17, 2015, 12:44:36 PM
from watching a bit of the training videos, he has a certain confidence about him, not an arrogance but a very relaxed looked as if he knows what he can do now.

i thought Samaris was showing the same thing prior to being sold during the friendlies, and was poised for a big year with us. i guess we will never know, probably for the better because the fee was very high.

fortounis will be staying, and i think he breaks out in a huge way. goals, assists, nice interplay, everything, probably the player i am most excited to see.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 01, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Isn't Kostas coming along nicely .  Super goal today against Feyenoord . This kid has lots of technical ability and I think being understudy to Chori has improved his awareness as a footballer .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 01, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
Entaksu, he's no Kaltsas but he's trying!! LOLOL

ton Fortounaro kai ta matia mas!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 02, 2015, 02:26:19 PM
I could watch this over and over and over again:

https://youtu.be/pj8i_ln79Ho
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Makrygiannis on August 02, 2015, 02:56:27 PM
We have a star in the making. This will be his breakout season, what a fantastic set of tools this kid has
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on August 23, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
He is our first Greek hgeth since Karapiali.  A star is born, guys, it's gonna be fun watching him this season.  Love that he's chosen the legendary #7 this season.

(http://idreamteam.gr/sys/uploads/2015/08/11895997_1132143700133978_1541905459469954213_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 23, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
This guy can play. Super skills with a good footballing brain. If he remains focussed and keeps working hard the sky is the limit for him.
Bravo Kosta.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 23, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
on replay, he may have used a hand, although not clear.

not that it matters, his combination of trickery, intelligence, passing,touch and now goals is unbelievable. and he can hit the net from set pieces if called upon. wow.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 24, 2015, 06:15:02 AM
^which replay did you watch?? not even CLOSE!!!

https://vid.me/RiAC

makrua apo ta vazelosite!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 29, 2015, 05:19:25 PM
he wasn't at his best today, but i like the fact even on the tough days he served 2 ready made goals to teammates and scored one himself.

also i love how he makes a movement towards the ball to lure the defender in but lets the ball run, completely leaving the defender for dead while using the balls momentum and opening the attack.

he is carrying his preseason for quite nicely.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 31, 2015, 09:57:31 AM
I would love to see Fortouni take on a new role...he doesn't have the speed to play the flank and his talent is wasted out wide, so forget him being an extrem...he also doesn't have the experience nor the true 10ari qualities that Chori has....therefore, I would place him next to the DM..let him be our 8ari..he would be an instant improvement over Mpouxalaki and it allows two dangerous players with phenomenal scoring and passing ability to coexist in the starting lineup (Chori+Kwsta)

Kwsta is better than Mpouxalaki in everything..speed, passing, scoring...he only lacks in the strength department

if this kid gets on a serious strength and conditioning program during the offseason, he will become WORLD CLASS!!

your thoughts aderfia?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2015, 09:47:35 AM
what #10 qualities doesn't Fortounis possess? and how does he lack pace outwide, he is faster than Durmaz with the ball for example, and played out wide for the ethniki to good effect. and experience? he is 22 ofcourse he lacks experience.

and bouchalakis is 6 months younger than fortounis so he also lacks experience. but he is a player who will continue to get better if he plays, he is by no means the finished product, its part of devolping your players. different player with different quality than fortounis, neither should get in the way of eachothers developement, esp imo since fortounis is better higher up the pitch.

i wouldn't push andreas playing time back it all, nor would i necessarily move fortounis out of his best position imo (defensively and mentally he isn't as good as an 8 although he is very talented, im sure he can be very good there). i beleive these young players need to play, will get better, and will contribute alot this year.

chori and fortounis work for the easier games, but get into CL, i think its too weak defensively to play them together in the center of the park.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
obviously the change of position was not meant for the Champions League file! why would I want to experiment during those high level games?? I guess I have to be specific next time?

#10 qualities that Fortouni doesn't possess YET are: taking control of a game......taking the ball otan KAIEI, calming down and leading your troops.....consistently UNLOCKING defences...a la Chori.. Fortouni is simply not there YET!!

faster than Durmaz with the ball out wide??o Fortounis? come on bro! (why didn't you use Hernani or Pardo as examples??LOL) Fortouni is lacking that strength and the sprint speed to beat his defender off the dribble and down the sideline..again, he's just not there YET..that's why I recommended a legit strength and conditioning program!

I'm trying to find a solution to play your best players at the same time...your suggestion is to do what exactly?sit Fortouni on the bench when Chori is healthy??or move him to the wing instead of Pardo?? I'm waiting to hear your suggestion..how do you fit Chori and Fortouni in the same 11ada??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
------------Roberto----------
-Omar-DeCosta-Botia-Masuaku-
--------Cambiasso---Fortouni------
-------------Chori----------

-Pardo----------------Hernani---
-----------Ibeye--------

all the FIREPOWER and you're worried that it would hurt our defence? against shit SL clubs? you put all that offence out there and the opponents will never get a shot on goal..Fortouni is an improvement over Mpouxalaki as an attacking 8ari, not only in vision but also as an attacking threat
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
my suggestion.

i am not worried about fitting players in bc they are the best regardless of fit, i am think more of a team that can do well in the big games. most SL games you will win with any lineup. i don't want an england situation where lampard, gerrard, and scholes all play and its a lesser product.

the lineup above you are susceptible to the counter, the wingbacks bomb up and the cover isn't great, esp since the cbs are slow. i think we can't just play all the attacking players than come time for europe throw in a completely different lineup.

fortounis is playing well so he is my #10. bouchalakis is playing well he is my #8. cambiasso needs match fitness but the quality is there he is my #6. milli and chori throughout the season will have chances to prove they should start. if both fortounis and chori play well, one will sit, thats what competition is about. fortounis is the young star, so if its pretty equal kosta plays cause he is doing it a younger age. same with bouchalakis and mill, bouchalakis being the younger player. cambiasso is a little different, he has a diff skillset than the others, he is a sure short passer and not one of our dms is that so he has a leg up so to speak. the younger plays will develop, milli and chori i think are what they are.

the wings its much the same as is the attack.


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 12:17:05 PM
a) you are scared of mpourdello SL clubs and their attacks!? LOL

b) of course you will throw totally different lineups in Europe vs. the SL! are you new in the Greek soccer world?? do you go up against double zone defences when you play European giants??are you constantly on the attack or are you the one with 80% posession, trying to unlock antipodosfairo teams?? unless you agree with Michel tactics where you play the same lineups in both competitions with TWO DMs as your starters then you really don't give a hoot about winning the championship

b) you're talking about starting Fortouni over Chori? Chori has to prove that he should start??LOL ..or is Chori is doing better, then you sit your developing star instead of finding a spot for him to coexist with Chori? ok den paei pou8ena auti I suzhthsh
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2015, 12:36:59 PM
so you cracked the code on how to beat shitty greek teams congrats. is that what we are thinking about right now? and why cant you beat them with bouchalakis spraying the ball around. so you came up with the lineup to beat kalloni, good job. how about atromitos/asteras away and bayern and arsenal and zagreb away. far more interesting.

when are you playing this lineup of yours. i think the teams defensive movement need to gel. if bouchalakis/milli are going to be playing in CL, get them minutes to work with their teammates. figure out how to cover for eachother etc. you are moving and mismatching to beat the kallonis while burying our good #8 bc he isn't needed against greek teams, and not even worrying about defensive chemistry?

and chori absolutely does need to prove he is better than fortounis. phasing out the old, playing the new. ones going to be worth millions and one has 1 maybe 2 seasons in him. if they are equal do you play the one who can improve and get you money or the one who will stay at his level. key word, if they are being equal. chori can beat him out, he might even, i think he is the best AM on the team, but fortounis right now is playing at a super high level. i am not sitting him right now
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 12:54:35 PM

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so you cracked the code on how to beat shitty greek teams congrats. is that what we are thinking about right now?
yes, that is what WE ALWAYS think about...beating the shit out of SL teams and lifting the championship...EVERY YEAR..that's our #1 priority..if you don't agree then take it up with the OWNER!!  ;)

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and why cant you beat them with bouchalakis spraying the ball around
b/c Fortouni is BETTER than Bouxalaki at spraying the ball around and I'm constantly looking at IMPROVING the lineup..why are you so sure that Bouxalakis is your weekly starter anyway? Kasami is still here and if he goes we will get another 8ari...also Silva rates Cambiasso higer as an 8ari, over Bouxalaki!!

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so you came up with the lineup to beat kalloni, good job.
no I came up with a way to play the BEST 11..and not letting Fortouni rot on the bench if Chori is healthy!! I would rather have Bouxalaki who is NOT a star rot on the bench than FORTOUNAROS...do you understand now?

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when are you playing this lineup of yours.
against Koula..I set this lineup specifically to pump the Turks by 10 goals..I wont sit Fortouni for Bouxalaki..I want BLOOD!!!

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i think the teams defensive movement need to gel.

and you picked Kolloni to practice your DEFENCE against??LOLOL

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if bouchalakis/milli are going to be playing in CL
Milli is suspended for the first two matches..Bouxalakis is NOT CL CALIBER!! I have higher vision and demands from my club!

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you are moving and mismatching to beat the kallonis while burying our good #8
I'm burying Bouxalakis while you're burying Fortouni!!! let me say that again....I'm burying Bouxalakis while you're burying Fortouni!!!

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and chori absolutely does need to prove he is better than fortounis

hahahahahhahahahaha KALOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2015, 01:34:12 PM
they all have to prove themselves bottom line.

bouchalakis i rate more than you, fortounis too apparently.

they have the upper hand today for me and the talent to keep their spot, who knows what the future brings.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 01:40:55 PM
you rate Fortouni but you want him to rot on the bench!!!

Bouxalakis I rate..go back in time and read his topic...he's just not better than Fortouni...not starting material for Olympiako especially in CL!!!

Fortouni has the upper hand over Chori?? how so, when he can't even unlock Levadeiako's parked bus??

4 posts and you have yet to provide me with an answer to the original question...how would you fit both PAIXTARADES in the same starting 11??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2015, 03:23:10 PM
Fortounis unlocked levadiakos plenty; omar, pardo, and jara couldn't finish

If he was to play with Chori i think it would be in at LM with free role. kind of like they gave afellay in the CL. have mazuaku overlap and give the width.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2015, 03:37:51 PM
Ok finally. .m'eskases dude!! So you would sit one of your biggest signings this offseason,  change Silva ' s tactics and formation, place Fortouni on the wing where he's too slow, just so you can play the world class 8ARI named Bouxalaki..katalava!!

You just unlocked Bayern ' s defense! LOL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 07, 2015, 08:32:32 AM
according to gavros newspaper...Silva is thinking of placing Fortouni at midfield!!LOL

an ginei kai auto...teza o Kozanis!! :P
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 07, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
Fortounis came off against Romania., he seemed injured. Hope nothing too serious .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 07, 2015, 07:11:09 PM
it was kind of weird. not sure if it was serious or was due to come off anyway and just took the cart on the way out lol.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 07, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
I think Fortouni got a knee in the back.? I'm sure he'll be just fine!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 22, 2015, 06:32:29 PM
very nice comments to read regarding how his teammates and silva view him.

Οσο για την δική του απόδοση; «Νιώθω πάρα πολύ καλά. Από την προετοιμασία ο προπονητής μου έδειξε ότι μ' εμπιστεύεται πολύ. Θέλω να συνεχίσω έτσι. Συνεργάζομαι πολύ καλά με τον Τζίμι και τον Καμπιάσο. Ολοι θέλουν να περνάει η μπάλα από μένα και να παίζουμε κάθετα. Οσο έχω την μπάλα στα πόδια μου αποκτάω αυτοπεποίθηση»

its cool how he came last year after a few rough years in germany, started on the bench at Oly, but slowly took advantage of his minutes and finished the season well, even scoring in the cup final.

flash forward to this year, now his teammates and manager want the ball to go through him, and Chori has already named him his successor. being entrusted to break down packed defenses and be the main playmaker.

its kind of came full cirlce, after leaving the youth team to make his name and get time, and finding it a bit hard, coming back to oly turns out to be the best decision he could have made.

so far 4 games 4 goals. not bad at all, he seems to be relishing the pressure.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 22, 2015, 07:43:36 PM
I believe if Kosta continues to play at a high level, take his chances, gain the confidence of his coach and teammates, and most importantly, keeps his feet on the ground and his head level, the sky is the limit and we have the making of a future captain.

As an Olympiakos fan, I am also proud of his roots, and his return to us.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 22, 2015, 08:27:39 PM
Fortounis is a class act.  Just a point on the penalty he took, fortunately he smashed it because the height and placement was very savable for a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 24, 2015, 06:13:49 AM
^yes he got very lucky what the PK..GK should've saved it there!

btw his stats in 2015: 12 G, 5 assists and counting!!

bravo paixtara!! keep working and improving!!! you're far from your peak, plenty of room for improvement!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 29, 2015, 06:12:30 PM
Fortounis just keeps meeting the challenges.

Today in the first half he showed tremendous confidence running with the ball, manuevering in and out of challenges, and smartly getting the ball wide from side to side. He was pretty much our only mid who i would say completed most of his dribbles and/or attempted dribbles. By far our best on the ball.

Second half he fell off a little bit as he became tired but today he was extremely encouraging and showed his class. now a goal against PAOK would top everything off very nicely.

ps his goal apparently was credited as an own goal to Ospina as of now.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 29, 2015, 07:55:46 PM
yup I agree kozani.he really matured.he will be our next leader.i love his confidence.he wll only get better
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on September 29, 2015, 07:58:57 PM
20 million euros or more is what will receive for him one day.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on September 29, 2015, 08:44:22 PM
What really impresses me about Fortunis is how he gets his body in the right position in tight spaces or when pressure comes ... it really showed today and helped us keep possession numerous times.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 29, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
20 million euros or more is what will receive for him one day.

Forget about dollars and  cents and lets start talking Lago numbers so they can stay in the transfer loop .

What youre trying to say is one day we will get 40 Karelisides for him.....  or  80 goats , one or the either right.

Fortounis not only positions his  body  beautifually but he has a good football brain.  He creates space with a  shimy and  then  knows what to do with the ball.
Oh and he is developing one hell of a dead ball game to.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: NISSIOTIS7 on September 30, 2015, 12:43:14 AM
This guy has a great attitude and his constantly improving, great to see. I used to consider Fortounis as Fetfa II not anymore.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2015, 07:50:04 AM
IMO Greece has NEVER produced this type of player before..EVER...Fortouni is a modern attacking player, something like an oxtarodekari!! This kid has worked on all of his weaknesses however if/when he gets stronger, he will be elite..a world class player that can play on any big European club!!

kudos to Marinaki for buying him...he was the president's PERSONAL CHOICE

p.s. almost lost this paixtara (and others) thanks to that mounopano Michel!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: NISSIOTIS7 on October 01, 2015, 05:48:37 PM
We arent the only ones noticing his achievements. Kosta made team of the week for the UCL alongside some big names! Keep it up and congratulations.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on October 01, 2015, 06:10:51 PM
(http://s14.postimg.org/wldtw2yr5/12096151_1089193027793825_2036132345146784507_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 02, 2015, 06:28:39 AM
His contract will be upgraded very soon and a new buy out clause included.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 04, 2015, 08:00:58 PM
most of us predicted a breakout season for Fortounis, but he has been unbelievable really. as the main creative outlet he has been credited with 4 assists at Toumba and the Emirates. his set pieces are a huge weapon.

the injury to chori in the past would have screwed us, but with Fortounis it has been barely noticeable. That alone is a huge compliment to him. Every single start i think he has scored or assisted so far. We are now relying on him, crazy. For example against Zagreb he will be the main playmaker once again, whether Chori is healthy or not, and i wouldn't bet against him making the difference.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 05, 2015, 01:58:20 AM
Fortounis is our go to player this season so far. Loved his  assist  yesterday  to Ideye. 
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 05, 2015, 07:35:42 AM
^you touched on this before...Chori hasn't been missed so far this season thanks to this UPERPAIXTOURA!!!

in years past, anytime we were missing the team's 'brain' we struggled to create chances and dropped a lot of unnecessary points...this season it's different...players+coach+dioikhsh ALL ONE ONE PAGE!!!

strap in...we're in for a wild run this season!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 06, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11220895_10154322617686632_8521625738573718157_n.jpg?oh=39754785d16a2046b717547d2375e0ba&oe=56961210)

Fortounare gera kai gama ta mounia!! they've never done anything with their career and will never win any championships..jealous mofoes in greece will always try to hurt you b/c you wear the red and white!! kudos for taking it like a champ and fucking them up on the field where it counts!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 09, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
only ONE team in mind!!!! bravo FORTOUNARE!!!!!!

during the NT match, Kwsta posts  a pic of himself wearing the red and white fanela!!

(https://instagram.com/p/8nFEopkINb/?taken-by=fortou25)

MONO OLYMPIAKOS REEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 09, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
get away fro that team,cancer again.unless they get a REAL TOP manager and give him time I will not watch this team.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 12, 2015, 12:22:45 AM
Fortounis is a gavraki through and through who digs playing for  Olympiacos.

.«Ήταν όνειρο να παίξω στον Ολυμπιακό και θέλω να συνεχίσω εδώ»

«Έπαιζα σε μικρή ηλικία στον Ολυμπιακό, από τα 12 μέχρι τα 14 μου. Δεν το κρύβω ότι όταν πας σε μία τέτοια ηλικία σε μία ομάδα δένεσαι μαζί της. Ήμουν Ολυμπιακός, υποστήριζα την ομάδα από μικρός και ήθελα πάντα να παίξω στο Καραϊσκάκη με αυτόν τον φοβερό κόσμο. Ήταν το όνειρό μου...».
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 12, 2015, 07:30:51 AM
another player speaking up against Michel!!! Mr. Kozani, is Fortounaros a kolopaido too?? ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on October 17, 2015, 01:04:22 AM
(http://s24.postimg.org/nosm7mrc5/12108947_1162878493727165_6699190221779552336_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 17, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
Fortouni you're a superstar.
Happy birthday Kosta and thanks for the 2 goals in the derby.
His penalties need improvement though. Same corner and kinda the same height.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 17, 2015, 11:56:05 PM
How much is he worth at this point? Would i be wrong in thinking a team would have to break our highest outgoing transfer fee to acquire him at this point?

bc i don't think the 15 million euros Mitro fetched would be enough for Fortounis and the way he is going.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: NISSIOTIS7 on October 20, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
I thought he was the best player on the field for a good portion of the game today. Well done again.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 20, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
He had a good game. He kinda faded  or tired so Silva took him off
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 20, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
he was very good.

it was plain to see he was the most technically gifted player and best passer of the ball we had on the pitch. He doesn't play defence aswell as his teammates, but they can't combine with him as good as he would perhaps want at times.

he provided running on the counter and spread the ball to the wings well when he had too. I think having Cambiasso in there helps him alot bc Mili and Kasami don't retain the ball as well as he does.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 31, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
Kwsta, you're starting to get away from what helped you get a starter's jersey in the first place!!

sunel8e mikre, den mas ta les kala twra teleutaia!!!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 04, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
Please no more penalties.  He  always shoots to the keepers right at a good height for the keeper to save.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 04, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
The follow up was actually even worse than the penalty miss, blasting over an empty net.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: S.Kokkalis on November 04, 2015, 08:12:45 PM
Even Djole missed a penalty here and there, as long as the team wins he can miss 50 pk's for all I care. This paiktoura is having a super season so far. Ta kalytera erxonte.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 04, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
Tzole was a freak penalty taker, ice cold .... picking either side of the posts , high or low and even in the 90th minute, he was cool. All of Fortounis penalties to date have been to the keepers right at a savable height.
Penalties need to be converted.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Adrastos on November 04, 2015, 11:42:55 PM
penalties are saved all the time, but that follow up attempt was unforgivable.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on November 04, 2015, 11:56:57 PM
Yup.horrible on both
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: FknPitsy on November 05, 2015, 07:10:36 AM
We can hammer him, but he's been playing really well, kept his chin up and played an absolute beautiful ball for the winner.  Takes balls and a lot of composure to be able to produce that sort of positive play after you've missed a penalty and the follow-up.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 05, 2015, 09:36:26 AM
yup..his PKs are ALL executed the same way/same location!! he makes it too easy for these GK to scout him out and stop him! he must CONTINUE to work and improve..it's all up to him to become elite and a world class footballer!

having said all that, I agree with FknPitsy..it took him a while to jump start his energy and confidence levels right after that PK miss but once he did, he helped us get that comeback win!! it's not easy to compose yourself after that horrible double miss

KUDOS to him!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 06, 2015, 12:48:35 AM
in a couple games he faded late, so to see him help make the difference in the 90th is a great sight.

it will be interesting to see how he keeps his form as the season gets longer. that is a challenge in and of itself.

i don't doubt he can, but it is something to watch.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 06, 2015, 03:27:47 AM
The only concerns I have with Fortounis  is his penalty taking. His general play is excellent and so is his  dead ball executions ( corners, free kicks) .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 17, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Fortounis played full match against Mongolistan  . No injuries to report. He will be good to  go on Saturday against the rabbits
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 25, 2015, 09:33:52 AM
I don't expect you to be in form all season long..but you cannot find form again by thinking ''shoot'' first and then ''pass''...you should be looking to pass first and get your teammates in positions to score

if Chori is unable to perform this season, getting an 8aro10ari during the winter break is a must!! no way Kwsta can carry the full load this season
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 29, 2015, 03:34:39 PM
Fortounis had a good game against Asteras, scored 2 goals . I'm still not convinced he is a good penalty taker. Same height, same corner only harder this time.
His 2nd goal was well taken.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on November 30, 2015, 10:02:44 AM
IMO he didn't do well till Chori entered the game..we need him to unlock the defenses something that he clearly is not capable to consistently do

His 2nd goal was money!! even his PK was taken very well..he placed it perfectly and had plenty of power behind it

p.s. how's Kaltsas doing? the gayBaker and the other PROVATA had very high expectations for the 'paixtara'LOL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on December 06, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Top scorer tied with Giannou of Asteras Tripolis with 7 goals so far this season.  Since the second half last season he's scored several goals for us, and he's getting better.  Do you guys think 20 goals is a realistic target this season?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 07, 2015, 12:10:15 AM
he will be a beast next year,he is still learning.i really hopw we keep him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on December 07, 2015, 05:46:49 PM
We would be selling him too early. 
He needs one more year.
One thing he needs to do better is creativity to other players
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 08, 2015, 03:26:50 PM
personally I'd rather sell him too early than too late..there's a small window of opportunity for certain players and to potentially cash in big..it's not everyday that a Greek players gets sold for 15 million!(that's the price that I'm setting for him)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 08, 2015, 08:22:30 PM
by having an older fourtounis next year ww have a chance of passing the group stages again which will make marinakis more money and more prestigious.maybe im a gambler or I just love oly too much.keep him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 08, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Fortouni alone is not going to help you get into the round of 16 or better ..I like our successful recipe..sell for the right amount of money and UPGRADE in every position! 15 million and you put a bow tie around him without a 2nd thought! It has nothing to do with gambling or with loving the club and everything to do with growing your name brand and moving up in the European rankings
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 09, 2015, 12:12:55 AM
who said alone?we have a solid core team.we can do some damage .I prefer we keep him and build round him.he is young and very talented.i feel he will have a great career.also selling and buying dosent always work.look at Liverpool and Tottenham.got loads of money and what have they done?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 09, 2015, 11:31:04 AM
he definitely can improve.

he uses his body really well when running with the ball and turning, where if the opponent makes a play for the ball he usually gets fouled.

but if he improves his strength, there is no getting the ball off of him. because he at times is in good position with the ball but gets shouldered off.

throw in a some tactically improvement defensively and i think would should hold onto him another yr.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 09, 2015, 05:57:27 PM
I rate Fortounis, I really do. But today baffled me with his mindset. I expected more of a leading role from him  by taking the match by the scruff . He is capable of this. That penalty dive was pathetic  and what it did was influence the referee  as to how he plays.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 09, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
He did what was asked for him. He received the ball w pressure, spun out of it, and found the wingers in space. The middle was compact but out wide it was one on ones basically. He needs help and the mids and other attackers where pitiful w the ball. Replace Ozil (one nice pass all gm) w Fortounis for Oly and you wouldnt even know he was playing. Replace Fortounis for Ozil in Arsenal and everybody would be rubbing their eyes. If we are expecting him to beat three players in the center and put it top corner when the wings can't even go by 1 on 1, well, it's not going to happen
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 09, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
Any time he tried to work something w Kasami and Mili who do you think fcked it up, not him ill tell you that
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on December 09, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
That creativity that only Chori provides was missing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 09, 2015, 09:20:53 PM
Chori would've put the match away in the 1st half with his brilliant passing game and attacking of the middle of their defense..Silva's inexperience fucked this one up AGAIN!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 09, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
Yeah but we aren't certain how match fit Chori is. He has missed a lot of  football this season with injury and hasn't had much game time lately.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 09, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Once added to the game's active roster, it is  understood that he is medically cleared and 100% game ready..his 30-45' of brilliance wouldve been enough and then you can pull him out..Arsenal was there for the taking in the first 30' of the match..Fortouni doesn't have the same quality nor experience that was needed in this specific match
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on December 11, 2015, 04:29:38 AM
Once added to the game's active roster, it is  understood that he is medically cleared and 100% game ready..his 30-45' of brilliance wouldve been enough and then you can pull him out..Arsenal was there for the taking in the first 30' of the match..Fortouni doesn't have the same quality nor experience that was needed in this specific match


My exact thoughts
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 11, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
if he doesn't put on some serious muscle, he will be yet another WHAT IF?!

he clearly worked on some things during the offseason but his priority should've been to add some muscle!! don't fuck this up Fortouni!!! you already skipped last offseason, don't do it this summer again

in the meantime, I would bring in an anti-Chori.we need WORLD class elite players on every line!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 12, 2015, 12:29:38 PM
If you want world class elite you would get rid of the whole team, can we stop throwing out these terms so easily when they don't apply.

I mean if you are going to get forget what the player of the season has done so far, how his assists where critical to getting us 9 points, how he tore up Arsenal at the Emirates, im not sure you can be satisfied.

And you are certain a player who hasnt been able to get rythem bc of injuries would create a goal just so you can dump on said player.

I want to know 2 things.

If fortounis is not a starter on this team, why did you state  you would only sell him for 15 million?

Who played better than Fortounis against Arsenal?

The bipolarness of this board, mine aswell get rid of all the young players if they can't single handidly win a gm against a team near the top of the EPL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
Bipolarness of the board??haha

kala Posa kila malakas eisai kai Milas etsi gia to pareaki mas??

Read all the posts in their entirety before you comment

I would sell Fortouni for the same reason I said to sell Mitroglou..their stock had reached their peak..no way we could ever fetch that price for any Greek player EVER!!especially if they're not even complete players yet

So kopse tis malakies gia bipolarism kai mila San anthrwpos!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
World class elite athletes: Cambiasso, Roberto , Ideye, Masuaku, Omar. FORTOUNI HAS THE POTENTIAL..ANOIKSE TA STRAVA SOU!! ;)

If it was up to you we would still be experimenting with pocket Messi!!lolol it's pretty funny how you used to praise him too and we all knew how that story ended and who was right and wrong in the bipolar forum!!;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 12, 2015, 02:10:13 PM
You would have sold Mitro far before he ever reached his top limit tho. And Djebbours crusty ass would still be here ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 02:20:05 PM
Mitroglou was sold exactly when the offer came in and I said put a kordelitsa around him while greek gatakia lovers were having hissy fits and going as far as to cuss Out Marinaki!! Good try though!!;)

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 12, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
i say keep him.we will reap more benefit from him as im sure he will become an elite player
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Mitroglou was the biggest heist ever ,as was Castillo..if Fortouni offers teach 15 mill TODAY,  I will say the same thing..we're robbing them!!that doesn't mean that I don't think he's an awesome Greek player!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 02:24:48 PM
i say keep him.we will reap more benefit from him as im sure he will become an elite player

How will he become elite?he came into this season's training weighing and looking the same as last season!! Talent is not enough to get u to elite levels!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 12, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
15 mil is chump change  to other clubs.rather get 25 30 which i think we can for him.i really truly  think he will be a great player.i mean even anti olympiakos friends of mine envy him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 12, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Do u honestly believe that the top clubs in the world would spend 25+ million for a Greek player from the SL??without proving themselves first in a mid table team of a tougher prwtathlima??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 12, 2015, 02:37:01 PM
a nice cl run would do that.worse players have gotten more.and its time marinakis raises the stakes.u wanna be world class team then u demand world classs fees.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 13, 2015, 03:24:31 AM
Fortounis has attributes that many supposed superstars don't have. He has a brilliant turn on him , great vision , a deft touch and a decent passing game. However he also possesses some weaknesses in his game but these weaknesses can be fixed.
He goes missing at times, I've never really seen him play a complete 90 minutes of dominating football. I'm not sure if it's a fitness things, but he can work on this. He has scored nearly every time he has come on as substitute.
I also want to see him get stuck in more and increase his workload
His Europa league form and how he performs will define his season in my opinion.
Fortounis is a diamond in the rough , make no mistake about if he improves aspects of his game he will become a tremendous player.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on December 13, 2015, 11:30:01 AM
he is young.give him onothr year,im pretty confident he will be a better player.if he dosent learn this year what it is to become a betterplayer then he will become onother mitro.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 13, 2015, 01:02:27 PM
Ela  Kozaniiiii how was Fortouni out on the LW today?R u satisfied?lol ma ti lew egw twra?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on December 13, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
I think the part of his game that I really like the best is his body awareness on the ball, he does a really nice job getting in position where he can draw defenders in space, and then he can win possession and create with his great vision and touch.  I agree with g7, he needs to build up strength, and once he does, he improves quite a bit as a player.  He's too easy to push around, although he's very deft and can move away from challenges, his strength could improve.  I would like to keep him to develop him.  Creative players like this are not easy to find.  He came on cheap, and if we are to sell for an offer that is hard to refuse, that's fine, but I still think he can get better with us.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 14, 2015, 12:56:59 PM
^good post

personally I'm looking at what's best for the overall picture of the club...remember what happened after we sold Mitroglou (I mean after we ripped them off with Mitro)?

We signed: Roberto, Kasami, Durmaz, Mili(loan fee+option to buy), Fortounis, Masuaku, Botia and brought back the kolopaido Mitrolgou(loan fee)

This season and with our books still in + we signed: Ideye, Pardo, Mili (bought outright), Kapino, Seba, Finbo+Hernani (loan fee+option) and others

this is how we're going to build a strong solid squad in the long run..we cannot compete with these big European superpowers any other way...

if Fortouni fetches $15 mill he's as good as gone!with that money you can find a player 10x Fortouni's skill and also add a few more pieces to the puzzle!!

OLYMPIAKOS ABOVE ALL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 14, 2015, 05:44:48 PM
He may not be worth 15 imo, but he still is a quality starter. Its not one or the other.

Regarding Mitro and Manolas, in general when you sell them you don't get better.

The campaign where we had Manolas and Mitro we had a beast in the back and a proven goal scorer.

With the Mitro sale you got better bc he fell off after injury unfortunately . But selling Manolas for 15 and getting Da Costa, Botia, Abidal types isn't improving imo

When Liverpool sold Suarez, Tottenham Bale, you get worse. Our players are no where near that but the concept applies. Its hard to replace your top guys

The problem is when they want to leave, it makes sense to move on . And teams like Oly have to sell. I would sell at 15 im not disagreeing. Its not as simple as sell and improve tho.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 14, 2015, 05:48:30 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 14, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Fortouni might be a quality starter for YOUR Olympiako, but not mine..no way I'm putting the ceiling that low!! again..he has the potential to become a quality starter, but in the meantime no fucken way I'm experimenting, nor holding my team back till he learns!! you might like the paramu8ia that vazeloi sold with Ninides etc, but I have a top 20 EUROPEAN TEAM that only paixtarades like Ibagaza and Chori and worth wearing our fanela with the 10!

regarding Mitroglou you're WRONG!! you got better b/c you A) got rid of an on/off field CANCER and B) you reinvested that money to improve your squad!! selling Manolas when you already have Siovas (who was great pre injury), Botia (Barcelona product, Sevilla starter) and bringing Santana as a backup, was a good call...not all of your players are going to pan out!!

p.s. for the most part, we've never had a hard time replacing our top guys..NEVER!! Olympiakos keeps evolving and keeps growing his European profile
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on December 14, 2015, 05:59:04 PM
btw how the heck didn't you get better with selling Mitro??I just broke down who we bought with Mitro's money!?!

forget everyone else....on ROBERTO alone, you instantly improved your squad...your team starts from your GK!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 11, 2016, 10:46:22 AM
Kwsta, you're starting to get away from what helped you get a starter's jersey in the first place!!

sunel8e mikre, den mas ta les kala twra teleutaia!!!!!

I raised the red flag a few months ago!! Silva finally put an end to it by leaving him off the squad!! the question is WHAT TOOK HIM SO LONG???
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on January 13, 2016, 02:43:53 AM
(http://s29.postimg.org/6krxz1ag7/6067.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 14, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
apparently Fortouni got the message and is practicing on his own this morning, while the rest of the team had a day off!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on January 14, 2016, 11:54:12 PM
(http://s22.postimg.org/69tiauapd/35eb29_gavros_2016_01_153.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on January 16, 2016, 12:52:58 PM
^^ I think Kosta has a difference to make him more special from previous Greek talents.  He spent time in a different league at a younger age, getting to learn the system, hopefully learned a different work ethic.  It'll be interesting to see his career arc.  Will he be like Mitroglou - who also developed in a different league at a young age, had talent, but ultimately no brains?  Or will he be a unique and special player that we hope he'll become. 

He definitely has skills and a way of playing that reminds me of Rui Costa (maybe a new nickname - Rui Kosta? haha) or players like that, who could control the pace of the game - maestro football.  I too think he's not quite a 10ari, but he has ability to shift from midfield to behind the strikers controlling the attacking pace of the game.  I hope he continues to be something special for us.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 27, 2016, 03:35:17 PM
etsi reeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

https://youtu.be/ji7n_vOgLbE
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 27, 2016, 04:32:16 PM
He was fantastic today.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 28, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
this kid puts on muscle over the offseason and he will be world class!there's no doubt in my mind..but he needs to do it right and not only rely on his skillset!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 31, 2016, 09:15:25 PM
Another fabulous performance by the paixtara..a few more similar games and he can finally catch up to Kaltsa!!hahaha

Fen morons even stated that Fortouni can't tie Kaltsa's shoelaces!!hahaha
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 01, 2016, 01:21:17 AM
your back on the bandwagon lol
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2016, 08:25:44 AM
which bandwagon would that be? the Fortouni is a LW bandwagon?LOL

btw there's still time to jump on the D train buddy!! the Jimmy D train!!all abooooarddddddd ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 14, 2016, 06:45:52 PM
Fortouni had a nice disappearing act against koula! Come on Kozani, you won't fall of the bandwagon if you criticize him!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 14, 2016, 06:56:52 PM
He had 2 players on him . Poyet stacked his midfield with defensive players and obviously wanted to close Fortounis down . Everytime Fortounis had  the ball he  was surrounded by 2-3  Hanoumia.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 14, 2016, 08:06:10 PM
Yup, I agree, Inferno.  I think had the tactics stayed that way the whole match it would've been hard for us to score outside of play from the wing with a good crossing game or free kick (or corner) scenario.  Once they subbed out the DMs, you saw Chori get lots of space in the midfield to attack at the end of the game.  I think Kwsta would've found a similar scenario too.  I don't blame Fortounis for the result.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 14, 2016, 08:11:21 PM
Fortouni hasn't been showing up for ntempies..not blaming him for the result.just stating the obvious! Whether it is being out of form right or having lost some concentration with all the transfer rumors, he better snap out of it soon!! We need him for big games!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 14, 2016, 08:13:11 PM
Btw even when Fortouni was finding some space, he wasn't beating his man one on one..he was plain awful against koula!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 14, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Fortouni hasn't been showing up for ntempies..not blaming him for the result.just stating the obvious! Whether it is being out of form right or having lost some concentration with all the transfer rumors, he better snap out of it soon!! We need him for big games!!

I disagree, file.  Fortounis played well in the first game against AEK at Karaiskaki, coming on a sub to get two goals and in the game at BAOG, he had 2 assists.  I think these teams are no longer considered rivals to him, maybe?   ;D  Maybe he was taking a breather for bigger teams.

You're right about not beating his man, though.  I don't know - Fortounis doesn't seem to have a lot of speed in his game, his biggest skill is getting the ball and controlling it, and opening up space for his teammates.  Whereas Chori seems to have a quick-start button or something - there are times when he can fly (even at his age).
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 14, 2016, 08:34:20 PM
^the game was already over by the time he came on against Koula..the match really opened up thanks to Dellas' idiotic substitutions and we were able to capitalize on that! but you have a point there file..i'm probably being a bit harsh on him but it he's supposed to be one of the best players on the team, we need to treat him like it all the time and judge him accordingly

I hope he's a little out of form and nothing else is going on!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 14, 2016, 09:52:13 PM
Yeah, I would think that Kwsta himself is pretty frustrated with what he wasn't able to do against AEK.  I think that he comes on strong the next several matches.  I like what I've seen in him, file.  I think he's mentally tough.  I think he is actually going to be one of the captains next year for us (assuming he's not sold for big money this summer).  He's no Fetfatzidis or Vlachodimos  :P

Interesting though that he was shut down this game, and the team had troubles creating (granted, it was against a heavily defensive formation).  This is just like our old "hgetes" Djole, Galletti, even Chori recently.  On an off day, the team struggles to create.  I think this team is better with other options, though (Jimmy has been MVP quality, for instance), but it still shows you how valuable this type of player is, and a "kleidi" to our attack.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 18, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
I hope he's a little out of form and nothing else is going on!!

ti trexei Kwstaki??? are you going to explain to all of us what's going on?? another disappearing act!!giati SERNESE???
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 18, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
Harsh for me.

He sent Seba in 1v1 with an absolutely gorgeous pass. Also had a brilliant cushioned pass to Mili off an aerial ball to set him up 1v1.

Throw in some beautiful through balls, and he did his job. If the others did theirs we are talking about a very good away win w Fortounis the architect.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 18, 2016, 07:11:07 PM
The kid can't even take corner kicks anymore..can't even get it off the ground!! Something is  going on and the truth will come out soon!

According to you, he's the best player on the team..so if you're satisfied that your best player had 2 good passes today, then I must be watching the wrong sport!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on February 18, 2016, 09:35:43 PM
to be fair - we only had one decent corner taken all game (maybe 2).  I think Kosta slipped on one as well.  the pitch did him no favors. 
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 18, 2016, 09:44:16 PM
oh by no means was he great, he was wasteful at times, but he did his job creating when it came down to it.

same with Durmaz, a few moments of class (dropped a defender on his ass on the assist to Ideye) but also a few shanked shots and some forgetful crosses.

Bottom line is they did their job for the most part, now it doesn't matter if prime Zidane is passing the ball to certain players, they just ain't scoring.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 18, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
Fortounis has a below par game for his standards. That's not to say he was bad but  much is expected from him and he needs to rise to the occasion. His corners were pathetic today
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 19, 2016, 08:15:42 AM
like I said, the truth will prevail! kati trexei!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 20, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
If he doesn't score or assist everybody is up in arms. Durmaz wasn't as good as Fortounis last game and he was "MVP". I guess he set the expectation for that early on. He is still the player of the season and the best player on the team.

Nothing is wrong, teammates need to finish the chances he serves up, its really that simple.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 22, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Here is a look so far at Fortounis' season, with splits as a sub and as a starter. (I also posted similar analysis in Chori's thread)

Fortounis this season has been used as a substitute in 4 matches in the Superleague.  He has scored 4 goals and provided 0 assists in these games coming in playing the role of "super sub".  In the CL he came on as a sub in 1 game with 0 goals and 0 assists this season.  In the Cup, so far 1 game coming in as a sub with 0 goals and 0 assists. 
- So for the season, he has come on as a sub in 6 games this season in all competitions, scoring 4 goals and providing 0 assists.

Fortounis as a starter this season has played in 17 SL matches as the starter, and has scored 12 goals, and provided 9 assists. In the CL, he was a starter 5 times and had 0 goals and 3 assists.  In the EL, he has started 1 match, with 0 goals and 0 assists. In the Cup, he has started 1 match, and scored 2 goals, and had 0 assists. 
- So for the season, as a starter, Fortounis has played 24 games this season in all competitions, scoring 14 goals, with 12 assists.

So, it looks like from the data, Fortounis is playing at a very high level, having a career season, and plays well as BOTH a starter and a super sub.  If you look at the data below from '14/'15, then you see Fortounis has a good track record as a sub, coming in and scoring goals for us off the bench.  Now, I think the team wants to play the young star they have as often as possible, to attract interest so that his price goes high, and that he can be sold at some point to top bidder. So there's also more incentive for him to play as a starter compared to Chori, if one is to be chosen over the other. Also, he has been our MVP so far this season.

'14/'15 season as a sub:
18 games as a sub in all competitions, 7 goals, 3 assists.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 22, 2016, 10:19:45 PM
Phenomenal work brother!! How many of his goals are via PKs? Half?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 22, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
^^ Not quite, out of the total of 18 goals he has (as starter and sub), 7 goals are PKs this season for Fortounis.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on February 22, 2016, 10:41:49 PM
I counted 6 total, but I may have missed one?  Kosta is having a great season. He is still learning. He will have ups and downs, poor form and good form. The fact that we are talking about a career year and mvp is honestly shocking to me, I didn't think he would have this much of an impact when he came. I hope he can be consistent. He needs to improve his strength. We will most likely sell him for a good price... But I hope he continues to improves and becomes a core player we can build around. We will see.

Btw, great work Dimitri!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 25, 2016, 06:30:01 PM
F this kid off already..don't wait another season!! take the money and rip off the poor bastards!

gataki
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on February 25, 2016, 09:14:29 PM
He was awful today.
Definitely sell if you can get a good price. He isn't a game breaker.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 25, 2016, 10:01:03 PM
He was ok up until he played out of position on the wing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on February 25, 2016, 11:18:30 PM
Fortounis is an exceptional talent but let's make no mistake he's no Chori.  We shouldn't be selling him unless we get some outrageous fee. We can't have a major overhaul.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 25, 2016, 11:24:24 PM
Who of the attackers was better than him? When you are surrounded by a ST who can't control the ball there isn't much you can do. Awful to me is a huge overstatement, he had a moments but 2 misses he should have done better on.

Chori is great, had a nice pass to Pulido for what should have been an assist, but he came on and didn't look any better than Fortounis, even had a few giveaways, I believe he made the mistake that should have seen Botia off, and another misplaced pass that led to a one v one?

But yeah, sell the bum.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 26, 2016, 12:06:14 AM
We probably expected to much from Fortounis.  He didn't have a good game but he didn't have a bad one either. Chori got in his groove  the longer he played .And I agree , he too wasn't without mistake, the difference being he hada few good shots which troubled the keeper.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 26, 2016, 09:59:55 AM
When your head is at the stands and the scouts that are there to see you (not only this game), you lose focus of  what you're there to accomplish as a TEAM!!

Sell this kid this summer!! he's only worth what teams are willing to pay for him..his stock has probably dropped a bit and will drop even more if for some reason we don't make the CL next season!!

GET RID OF HIM AND GET AN ELITE ATHLETE AND A MORE TALENTED PLAYER FOR HIS POSITION!! GATAKI!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on February 26, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
He's had a great season so far, far above anything we expected. To call him a gataki is beyond harsh. He has a coach with no brains. He's been putting him in bad situations (out wide) and playing him too much/expecting too much IMO. He has Chori they should have been used in tandom. This is not to take all the blame off him either, he needs to WORK and try to improve. But to call him a gataki and write him off because of one bad game (nobody played well) or a run of bad form is harsh.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 26, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
^gatakia disappear during BIG games..gatakia care about the scouts more than working on their game, their strength and conditioning!!

his stock is at its highest..maybe took a little dip...SELL immediately..can upgrade our attacking line and midfield with his money!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 27, 2016, 12:03:44 AM
Georgakopoulos speaking:

Πού ήταν χθες ο Κώστας Φορτούνης; Ο παίκτης που προορίζεται -και δικαίως με βάση τα προσόντα του- ως ο νέος ηγέτης της ομάδας; Τριάντα πάσες οι είκοσι λάθος και στη συντριπτική πλειονότητα με αποδέκτη τον Ντουρμάζ! Λες και δεν παίζει άλλος με ερυθρόλευκη φανέλα. Έχει καταντήσει κουραστικό, για να μην πω προκλητικό, στα περισσότερα παιχνίδια να παίζουν ο ένας για τον άλλο, λες και δεν μιλάμε για αγώνα, αλλά για "κορόιδο" στην προθέρμανση. Και για όσους λένε ότι τον ενοχλεί να πηγαίνει στο πλάι όταν μπαίνει ο Τσόρι, η δική μου άποψη είναι ότι απαγορεύεται μια τέτοια αλαζονική συμπεριφορά σε ένα 23χρονο παιδί. Αυτό δεν είναι κακό μόνο για την ομάδα, αλλά και για την ίδια του την καριέρα.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on March 03, 2016, 10:06:18 AM
not impressed again yesterday..aside from that assist, I thought he wasn't good at all..didn't get anyone involved up front...too soft off and on the ball..his turnover at midfield (easily pushed off the ball) cost us a goal!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on March 04, 2016, 02:08:16 AM
If he wants to reach that next stage he needs to get stronger.
You can tell he's been beat up.
So weak with the ball
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 04, 2016, 04:10:52 AM
Nothing an offseason on the weights to build some strength cant fix.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on March 04, 2016, 08:55:42 AM
^and b/c we know he wont do that, he must be sold this summer
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Marcus on March 07, 2016, 04:30:29 AM
Can't say I disagree with anything written so far. I think that he'll go in the summer, someone will come in with an offer and we'll accept.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 07, 2016, 09:31:39 AM
If we get a very high offer I would pull the trigger. If we don't I want to see/make him hit the gym and improve in the areas that are obvious weaknesses. If he does that he can reach the next level and if that happens we can build a team around a young player.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on March 07, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
http://www.gegonota.eu/2016/03/blog-post_119.html?m=1

That's the only way he's getting sold
20 million Euros if that's the case than we have no choice but to sell him.

Problem is we don't have the guarantee of our yearly champions league spot and wouldn't like to have a high turnover of the roster but any offer of that magnitude can't be denied.

That's again the business aspect with which we dominate our league. Pao sells their best player or 2 in Karelis for 2 million Euros.  If he was a Gavro we would have sold him for 10 + .

Mono Olympiakos
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on March 07, 2016, 02:10:10 PM
20 million?? no way he can fetch that sort of money...he's not that good..he's definitely no 30-40 million euro man (that's probably what they would turn around and sell him for if he improved)

IMO 15 is pushing it!

p.s. vazeloi would sell their mothers for sunflower seeds!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on March 07, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
if we sell him to get onother ideye im gonna go crazy.i want a  guy with tsambouka.someone that can make nothing out of something.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Marcus on March 30, 2016, 02:43:22 AM
Top of the scoring tables, top of the assist tables, scoring for the NT. I think he'll be gone this summer for definite.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 30, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Well there's are already hints that Olympiacos will look at offers over 15 million and that Martinez will be returning from the loan spell.
One thing alive noticed about Fortounis is if he starts a match he fades towards the back end. Fitness?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on March 30, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
^lack of power, strength plays a huge part in this, as does poor nutrition.  So if he's not fueling and hydrating himself properly then he will not last the entire game at high intensity levels

skill is not enough..I've been saying this about him and about our players/club for many years now
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on March 31, 2016, 12:50:39 AM
Fortounis has gotten the most exposure he will ever get. I am for trying to create a core but this type of exposure will lead to many interests and if he fetches a fee north of 15 million Euros than we can't pass up on it.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on March 31, 2016, 09:00:06 PM
if ure selling at a year when u have to qualify for Europe then gamiseta.if they get 15 mil and then get another palto like ideye and hope they found someone cheap then gamiseta.theres should be no selling this year unless its ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on April 11, 2016, 12:07:39 PM
from everything I've been hearing, despite all the rumors, we have yet to receive any offers on paper..the only definite thing so far is that he wants to stay for another season and we will be increasing his salary..obviously we cannot rule anything out, so if we receive an offer that's over the 15 million euros starting price, he'll be sold
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on April 11, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
We can't be talking about any transfers of who's staying or going till me know our fate in Europe for next year.  If there's no European ball next season for us than he will most likely force our hands to transfer him.  Look at all the exposure he got from this season he won't get that next season if we're not allowed to compete. 
If we do indeed play European ball next season than he's a keeper along with Pardo and Hernani!!!

Only way I sell him if it's that can't miss offer which we can't turn down. 

I will tell you one thing players Like Manolas, Mitroglou and Samaris all playing well this season raises this kids stock.

Manolas might get Roma a fee from 40-50 million Euros. 
If we don't get screwed by Syriza and continue to grow our brand we will periodically be selling players at 20 million Euros on a more regular basis. 

But again this all depends on our European fate which looks bleak at the moment.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on April 11, 2016, 02:54:56 PM
^
1. we WILL be playing in Europe next season
2. if there was a grexit, he can't force us to sell him b/c he simply would not even exist for UEFA and FIFA! he would be forced to stay! ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on April 12, 2016, 10:53:48 PM
He pretty much is our best player, the creative hub of the offense.

I don't want him sold, I want a finisher and a CB to help solidify the spine of this team in all thirds.

Get some pieces in place this year, and if the job is done right, rather than selling Fortounis and needed to drastically improve 3 spots, you have Fortounis to help the bam CF get off to a good start while keeping continuity, and then you sell him the following year.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on April 12, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
^^^



Think about this Fortounis will spearhead a midfield of Hernani, Pardo, Cambiasso and Milovojevic.  Too keep that all intact is imperative for more success next season. 
But Getting him that striker is all the difference than.  At least at the offensive side of things Fortounis and Olympiakos would be extra special.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on April 13, 2016, 10:10:05 AM
anyone want to put up a 20million euro collateral, in case we lose Fortouni to a season ending injury next year?

if you get a 20 mill. euro offer for Fortouni, you throw in Sempa and 2 cases of red wine for free! then you spend 10-15 mill. to upgrade the roster further!! make no mistake about it, keeping one player will not make your club elite overnight..we have a long term project in effect and need to stick to it!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on April 13, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
20 million is fair. i don't think we will be better for it short term but like you said long-term maybe a different story.

however what happens if the offer is 15 million, which was most of our selling point earlier, do we still let him go for that. I am going to say no imo.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2016, 04:14:46 PM
15 or above and I pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on May 17, 2016, 02:31:05 PM
^gatakia disappear during BIG games..gatakia care about the scouts more than working on their game, their strength and conditioning!!


ton poulo.i've been saying all along to get rid of him..why wait for his stock to dip even more??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on May 17, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
is this vlammeno 80 y.o. and overweight?? that's definitely how he presented on the field today!! ai sixtir gataki!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on May 17, 2016, 08:29:02 PM
He's overrated and needs to be sold bc he's been exposed. 
Yea Chori replacement
That's just scary to say

Please sell him before he has no market
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on May 18, 2016, 12:24:39 AM
He played as if  there was an expectation that things would  happen for him.  Too  casual for my liking today. Hes had a great season BUT in the matches that have counted  he has not performed.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on May 20, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
1. finish last year strong. check.

2. breakout this year and becoming the main man for Oly and the Ethniki. check.

3. validate star status the upcoming year, dominate the league again, play a pivotal role into getting us into CL and making a mark, play a pivotal role into getting Greece into the WC, get stronger. move for big money to a big league. tbd.


Fortounis has to realize he did some good, he could have done somethings better, if he works his ass off he will take the next step, provided he isn't sold.


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on May 20, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
^finishing the year strong? are you including the cup final where he was walking around like a WWII vet?

from Feb. on his #s look like this:

cup: 2 games played (0 g, 0 a)
SL: 9 games played ( 3 g, 4 a)
Europa: 2 games played (1 g, 0 a)

not as strong of a finish as one might think!!

He definitely came onto the scene pretty strong..making a name for himself after some failed attempts so far in his career! Lets not get ahead of ourselves by naming him the ''main man'' for Olympiako!! calm down a bit!! he has ways to go to become the main man!

regarding him getting stronger..he doesn't have the drive nor the desire to improve his game..during the break he wasn't hitting the weights but was out riding horses!! you don't get strong ''ME TA LOGIA''...

SELL HIM ASAP AND BRING IN AN ELITE ATHLETE
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Original on May 30, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
Not sure if you guys saw this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGDP3MDnhLq/

Roberto and Fortounis in the squad
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on May 30, 2016, 08:58:27 PM
Are they kidding? Roberto had a shocker of a season by his standards.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Original on May 30, 2016, 09:13:28 PM
Lol I agree Inferno but I really rate him and also off the field he is a true gentleman.....
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on June 03, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Fortounis contract has been extended until 2020 and new buy out fee added.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on June 03, 2016, 08:47:28 PM
Η ΠΑΕ Ολυμπιακός ανακοινώνει την επέκταση της συνεργασίας της με τον ποδοσφαιριστή, Κώστα Φορτούνη, έως το 2020.

http://www.olympiacos.org/article/57722/epektasi-symbolaioy-me-ton-kosta-fortoyni

(http://s33.postimg.org/z5s3czkj3/1296156.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on June 04, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
inferno, I don't think a buy out fee has been included..his salary has doubled and the team can place any type of price tag they want on him IF interested clubs make a serious attempt to sign him...I'm saying IF b/c despite all of this talk, we have never officially received any offers for Fortouni
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on June 25, 2016, 06:26:46 PM
So just read how Sanchez has lots of confidence on fourtounis and he expects olot from him this year.i know he has the talent but can he handle the pressure in big matches?im looking for a great year from him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 21, 2016, 06:29:30 AM
do you guys think he can repeat or even beat his #s and performance of last season?

coach is assigning him a new position, even higher up on the field and right behind the striker..he's trying to get more scoring out of him..can he do it?

p.s. just for the record, I don't think he worked on anything during the offseason..he looks the same player to me..did not improve on strength, speed..NOTHING!! very disappointed but also predicted it!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 22, 2016, 06:47:33 AM
Paikse mpalla kwlopaido kai ase ta sapia kai ta SALIA stous ARDs!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on July 22, 2016, 09:49:38 AM
Sanchez apparently had a one one one meeting with him to get him motivated.  Hopefully it works.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 22, 2016, 09:54:45 AM
a 23 yo old that just had his salary DOUBLED needs motivated!!! malistaaaaaaaaaaaa

hopefully he benches the gataki that walks around the park when asked to get outside of his comfort zone
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on July 23, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
The thing with Fortounis is and we confirmed it last season , he can only play well behind the striker. He is too slow for the flanks.
A roaming role behind the striker or stokers is his best position.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 23, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
what have we seen during the friendlies? Poulido and Fortouni both have also been tested on the left (more like inside mids) and they gradually make their way to support the striker

Fortouni is not an extrem, that has been well established..but he's not asked to play the entire flank and to even cross the ball with his left..I see what Victor is trying to do...Poulido has done great so far this preaseason anywhere that the coach asks him to play..you know why??b/c he TRAINS hard..he's in great physical shape and works out constantly..if Fortouni had half the work ethic that Poulido has, we wouldn't be talking about the gataki only being able to play behind  the striker!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 27, 2016, 07:53:12 PM
Entaksu malakistiri?epaikses sto kentro? Mas ekanes ta apoduthria mpourdello?euxaristithikes??

Sell him before his stock crashes!! Over rated gataki!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red or Dead on July 27, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
^^^

The only player who played half decent today and he's overrated and should be sold. Lol. How about Ideye to the Chinese which was reported last year. How about Seba. How about maniatis. It's not fortounis fault that the lot around him are tragic. Play him with Chori, Durmaz, pardo and a decent striker and you won't be saying he's overrated.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on July 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
He needs some bench time to put him back in line.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 28, 2016, 02:41:54 AM
Alli mpalla vlepeis Red!!

@inferno,
He needs to be sold , not benched!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on July 28, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
Seba, Ideye, Maniatis are starting and you guys want to take out the only technical player save maybe Durmaz who is nowhere near Fortounis.

Good call, lets just get players who run and can't do a damn thing and wonder why Fortounis has no space, has all the focus on him, and can't work combination.

Its called scouting. Take away the only creative player w ability and watch his teammates do nothing and you can stop oly.

How about we get some talent to help him. Christ. I agree with RoD.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on July 28, 2016, 09:34:16 PM
doesn't do shit while he's on the field anyway! loses the ball and walks around!!

How'bout we stop holding the kid's hand and get a world class athlete to replace him instead..he's not that good to build a team around him!! he has done jack shit in all important matches ..enough is enough with the gataki..you kept insisting on building a team around another gataki..we all know how that ended up!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on July 28, 2016, 10:02:31 PM
we lost as a team.was nobodies fault.lets see return leg what we are made of
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 03, 2016, 06:25:01 PM
He did nothing again today.  even his dead balls  were crap. Poor corners and free kicks.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 03, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
biggest malakia doubling this gatakis' salary!! now he's just going to sit on that raise ...st@@ tou ola!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 03, 2016, 11:31:47 PM
The double cameo appearance of Fortounis and Bouchalakis jostling for  who would take the set pieces really pissed  me off.  Very frustrating. He needs to step it up.
Personally Id start Chori and  keep Fortounis as a sub  until he finds some form .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on August 06, 2016, 10:20:00 PM
I didn't rate this kid at all before he joined... If any remember I was against his signing and didn't expect much. He thoroughly proved me wrong and I started to support him. I started to believe in the potential... But he's got to work for it. He's got to take himself to the next level. So far this year he has been a disappointment. Where were you when we needed a leader Kosta? Those are the games YOU need to step up. I hope he turns it around, I really do want to support him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 08, 2016, 06:52:01 AM
teams are loading up on him because he is the only threat. when chori is in there with him its not like chori is doing better than fortounis. which means to me its  a system thing, i think many players would be frustrated aswell. its almost like when Greece plays and Fortounis was in white hot form. when your teammates are so awful there is only so much you can do.

if we sign a forward, a competent winger, and the performances don't improve then thats a different story. the pitch is so closed when he is there because our forward is no threat and the wingers stink its really unfair. unless you want him to dribble 4 players and put a goal on a platter for ideye who will probably miss anyway.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 08, 2016, 06:58:27 AM
it's not a system thing..he's a gataki and he can't handle the pressure of being a leader! it's not like Chori is a natural 10ari but he has been amongst the best we've seen when we play him there
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on August 08, 2016, 07:00:16 AM
I think Fortounis biggest fault is not his skill or craftiness but his physique. For playing in the middle of the action on attack he's too weak on the ball and gets outmuscled easily. On the wing he's too slow. Still a great player and if he keeps working he can do great things with us...
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 08, 2016, 07:01:38 AM
^but that's the problem..he DOESNT work!! his physique has not changed one bit! he's almost 24, trapped in a 14 yr old body!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 25, 2016, 03:39:58 PM
ANTE GAMISOU GATAKI!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 25, 2016, 04:42:24 PM
the WORST 10ari we've had for who knows how long?!?!?!! gataki+locker room cancer!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 25, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
4 games into the season, injured for one. wow.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 25, 2016, 05:15:09 PM
Oute mia trixa apo to deksi arxidi tou Chori den einai

Dromooooo

only him and Maniati haven't received any offers!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on August 28, 2016, 09:18:44 PM
Kostas Fortounis: "see, look, I told you all I was hurting badly & had to push myself to get through"

http://www.gavros.gr/blog/podosfairo/etsi-epaize-o-fortoynis-pic


(https://s15.postimg.org/bt006mywb/podifortounis.jpg)


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 28, 2016, 09:24:53 PM
thats bad, tough to be at your best with your ankle like that, i am not sure he should care to prove the know-it-alls wrong and post pictures, rather just ignore them, but he probably got tired of hearing the bullshit coming from their mouths.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 28, 2016, 09:28:38 PM
shows how weak the gataki is that he has to make excuses for his shit play..and I'm not talking about this one match either!!

DeLaBella played the entire 2nd ET period with a pulled hammy..you don't see him posting pictures are crying like a bitch!!

Man up gataki!!! change your tampon before you cry on social media about your injured ankle!!

nobody forced you to lace them up little bitch!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 29, 2016, 01:48:58 PM
rumor has it that coach and management are not happy at all with Fortouni's joke of an EXCUSE for his shitty form!!

GATAKI TO NOU SOU!!! YOU MIGHT BE FOOLING THE GATAKI LOVERS OUT THERE BUT NOT THE REST OF US!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on August 29, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
The guy is a lazy bum.
The club gave this guy the Dekari role and he came out guns blazing last year but has clearly fizzled out.

He doesn't work hard and we have seen the best we're gonna get out of him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 29, 2016, 09:11:53 PM
where is the logic.

the man played both legs against Hapoel, where everybody was awful and everybody believed the tactics made it difficult to play. No excuses there but he was hardly the only problem, the whole team was the problem.

Then he missed the first leg against Arouca because of injury, and took an injection and tried to play the 2nd leg, but wasn't 100% as evidence by the state of his ankle.

only in Greece do you hear this stuff. like we all know what he did in the summer and how hard he worked. solid sample size guys.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on August 29, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
I like Kosta, I think he has a lot of skill and I believe in him BUT, he has to really show some toughness.  Both physically and mentally.  If he does, then the sky's the limit.  I hope he can get healthy and keep his mind on the field and help the club.  Last year, he played an excellent season.  Let's hope it wasn't a one-time thing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on August 29, 2016, 10:53:21 PM
Does he look like he put on any muscle?does he look fresh and hungry?yes we know what he did last summer..he did dick squat!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakara10 on August 31, 2016, 12:07:43 AM
The angry peasant above me is obsessed with Fortounis' body.

I'm not surprised he talks a lot about gays considering his obsession with another man's physical attributes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has some shirtless Fortounis posters around his house.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 31, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
Fortounis demeanour doesn't  good and won't help the team. He looks like he isn't enjoying being out there and has a sulking look on his face. The fans booing him against Arouca wouldn't have helped him but it's up to him to turn things around . Good players have form slumps but come out often better players if they work work work .
Time will tell with Fortounis.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
^
his body language says everything..it's not a slump that he's going through..I've been calling this gataki out for a long time now..his head is in the stands where the scouts are sitting..he chose to go the wrong route file...he made friends with the ARDpoutses, formed a klika with the other 2 mounia (surprise surprise NO offers are coming in for all 3 of these mounia), INSTEAD of staying grounded, working hard and playing for the FANELA!!

fuck this gataki..can't believe they doubled this clown's salary, only for him to shit on the club with his behavior on and off the field
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 01, 2016, 03:03:25 PM
kseksistike gia tin Ethniki simera kai efuge traumatias!! BRAVO SOY MOUNOPANO!!

lets see what the official diagnosis is..Martins and Marin are better in his position anyway!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 01, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
injured today for the ethniki, got stepped on. had a nice run and pass to torosidis, which led to a cross and a goal.

the extent is not yet known, hopefully it is nothing and he will be ready for UEFA cup but he looked in pain.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 02, 2016, 06:16:50 PM
apparently nothing serious
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on September 02, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on September 15, 2016, 06:15:23 PM
Would selling him for 10 million earlier not have been a great piece of business seeing how great we look so far?

His stock has taken a nosedive this month. And it's all his fault for going to the media to complain instead of working at a new position. Contrast his attitude to Cambiasso's last year when he was benched for no good reason.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 15, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
He has clearly fallen behind Marin, Martins and Chori...4th choice really gataki!! Get your head out of your ass and work..your klika is no longer here to back your b.s.!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 15, 2016, 08:23:02 PM
He is going to have to work to win back a starting spot and this is a beautiful scenario for us because it will test his resolve. If he works harder and improves then we will benefit with a enhanced version of Fortounis 2015.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on September 15, 2016, 09:14:45 PM
This is a great situation for Olympiakos.  We have so much depth and nobody job is a guarantee.
Fortounis will get chances to crack the starting line up with the club or international play.
Let's see what he is made off.

If he's that good than he will be a star.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 16, 2016, 12:55:47 AM
He will get chances, i don't think Bento even knows his best #10 yet, it's up to him. He has the talent to start, but the others probably think the same. And the team wins in this situation. 
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 16, 2016, 06:35:16 AM
He is going to have to work to win back a starting spot and this is a beautiful scenario for us because it will test his resolve. If he works harder and improves then we will benefit with a enhanced version of Fortounis 2015.

this is a new look Olympiakos..no more Greek players playing just b/c of their nationality, or just b/c Georgato said so!! this is the new look Olympiakos with CLASS players..with players that want to play for the fanela first and foremost..this is the new look Olympiakos putting in action what we always said and believed ''only the best will play whether they're black, white, yellow, purple''

Fortouni has lost his job to Marin and Martins...that's what happens when you defend the gataki and hold on to a lie, instead of criticizing him and pushing him to get better

Olympiakos will make a run in Europe this season without Greeks in the lineup and I'm perfectly fine with it!!

it's a shame NO OFFERS came in for the gataki while his stock was high!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 16, 2016, 11:47:58 AM
also, I'm willing to bet that with Fortouni on the field we would've got knocked out by Arouca and we would've got crushed yesterday against the Young Boys

kudos for those who decided to bench the gataki...that's where he belongs for now and until he decided to fight for his spot!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 16, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
g7 relax re.all  these signings are new and we dont know yet if they are playing for the fanella.i dont cum after a few matches.so far so good but not gonna put anyone on a pedestal especially what players olympiacos has had.the real players who play for the shirt come out when the team is doing bad.so far we winning.and neither do i want a team full of foreigners just to get foreigners.first shoul always be greek and a foreigner should be taked only if HES BETTER.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 16, 2016, 05:27:14 PM
I on the other hand kavlwnw when I watch the erythroleuki fanela and it's players leaving everything they have on that field every single game!

Fortouni of last season's first few months is a starter...he hasn't been starting material in about a year

Aside from the old Fortouni and Kapino, there aren't any Greek players good enough for our team (perhaps only Manwla and Papatathopoulos)..so F looking at Greeks first..I'm looking after Olympiako first and only him!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 16, 2016, 06:13:51 PM
i laugh when ppl say  that.us greeks all love olympiakos cause were GREEK.none of us would have followed them if we werent.olympiacos was formed by greeks and has grown cause of greeks and i wanna die knowing it still has greek soul in it.im not saying dont have foreigners .all im saying is that a greek should only lose his spot because the foreigner is olot better.but thats for onother debate.OLYMPIAKOS WILL  and shall always be greek.and also i prefer to win a euro cup like we did with 100 per greeks then like the french.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 16, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
You can laugh all you want it still won't make a difference..you can't name anyone aside of the 2 CBs that I mentioned , who would take a fanela vasikou on this Olympiakos team..

The soul of Olympiakos will ALWAYS be Greek bc of its fans!! I Olympiakos einai o LAOS tou..don't ever forget that..it's not the players

The best mpalla I have seen from Olympiako has come from its foreign players!don't kid yourself file..foreign players and foreign coaches alike!!

F Greek gatakia! Giovanni has cried for our fanela while other mounia Greeks have worn the enemies fanela!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on September 16, 2016, 10:47:46 PM
Fact is the Greek players aren't producing enough to guarantee play on the field. 
Just look at some of the players we sign.  They value the name Olympiakos.  They have so much pride and passion for the jersey.

Play the best available players !
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 17, 2016, 06:36:47 AM
Fortounis has been left out of the squad for the match against Iraklis.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 17, 2016, 06:57:18 AM
Faaappp gataki..I've been saying this for months..finally a coach with balls!! FORTOUNI KATEVA AP' TO KALAMI!!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 17, 2016, 08:39:46 AM
im not talking about this current time.im talking in general.and yes we have had more flops of foreigners who were either the same and or olot worse then any other greek player.and we paid MORE to have them.if i had more time i would list the names of all the shit foreigners we got just to tell the ppl we have new trannsfers,olympiakos should always try to be greek EVERYWHERE.not just the fans but on and off the field.thats my way of  thiking and i could care less what anyone else fucken thinks.if i wanted to suppport a team that dosent give a fuck about its roots ill be a chelsea fan.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 17, 2016, 10:32:12 AM
This is the guy that was our top scorer and MVP last year.  If he is injured, he will be back at some point.  If he has been mentally not tough enough to 'earn' his spot back, then he lacks character and toughness that's necessary to be at the top level required for our club. Time will tell.  I hope it is the former, because he was a very good player for us last year. However, I'm more and more suspicious that it is the latter...

Regarding the Greek versus Foreigner debate: I think that I agree with g7 that there aren't many Greeks that would have an automatic spot for our club (also, I think automatic spots on the roster lead to complacency).  I agree with the list of Manolas and Sokratis (who would be definite upgrades in class to our current CBs), Fortounis, Kapino, and I like our Greek youngsters (Retsos and Manthatis).  Let me remind everyone that the Greek NT recently lost twice to Faroe Islands, so our 'home' product isn't exactly at its best status right now.

I hope that the Greek product does improve over time because I do personally like seeing Greek players that LOVE our team - singing the ymno, having a connection with the team (maybe supporters in their youth)... But nowadays, with the game so global, we can see players come to the team, learn Greek, love the club (see Fuster and who will ever forget Pantelic climbing into Gate 7 singing 'Eisai Sto Myalo') or other big stars who have stayed and not acted as mercenaries, showing love for the club and the fans (Chori, Cambiasso) which produces a similar effect for me.  I just love seeing the players bleed for the shirt and love the fans - that's all I ask for.  Historically, it has been Greeks more likely to do this, but I think we've seen a trend in the other direction recently. I worry that the newer Greeks are too 'inflated' because the product overall is so bad, that their egos get the best of them and start feeling above the club, plus the media influence, etc.

Finally, I am also a big believer in watching a player's body language and interactions with other players.  I often watch the Olympiacos TV spots of pre-game, training, dinners, etc, to see who hangs out with who, who seems to be having fun and working hard in training.  It is understandable players gravitate towards players speaking their language, so there is a tendency to form klikes. True leaders of the team bring the players together. Cambiasso is our current team leader - even if he doesn't wear the armband. I had hopes that Kosta could be a player like this for us, but so far, have not seen it, and I don't see him being a player like this.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 17, 2016, 11:29:35 AM
if Bento isn't playing him because he is out of form, i think its a mistake, he needs some games to get back some confidence because we know what player he can be, and he should be in the 18. you have to work with the players.

if Bento isn't selecting him because of Fortounis attitude, it will do him good. its a long season and this is game 2 in the league so its no big deal.

signing Martins is a little curious tho, if he plays AM and doesn't play CM because of his slight frame it creates a log jam. I know he came on a free, and Bento knows him so perhaps he wanted him, so the signing isn't bad, and he looks ok but ...

Marin, Fortounis, and Chori would have been enough for the position. 4 CAM to me seems to much, I don't know even how you rotate all of them and keep them happy. There is an odd man out, and Fortounis is more talented than Martins and younger, and Chori is a match winner and this is probably his last year. Then Marin was the big name guy they brought. Its a tricky situation.

Its nice to see competition but to me that is overstocked.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 17, 2016, 02:20:21 PM
Bento spoke  loud  and clear after last game and sent a message to the gataki..some are still in denial..luckily the majority of us are all on the same page...gataki kateva ap'to Kalami sou...terma auta Pou ikseres!!

Martin's signing apparently is an issue now for the gataki lovers  bc he's stealing his rotation spot!!krima!!! 4 AM is too much ?lol you preferred it better when Fortouni had no competition and he became complacent right?

We're still in European competition bc the gataki wasn't on the field when it counted! Enough said...hope Fortouni is willing to get his head out of his ass..for his sake..the club will be ok..it's his career that is going nowhere quickly!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 17, 2016, 02:25:24 PM
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if i wanted to suppport a team that dosent give a fuck about its roots ill be a chelsea fan.

And if I wanted to support a team full of Greek gatakia I would only follow the NT!!

I'll take 11 Fusters over 11 Fortounides or Maniatides ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 17, 2016, 02:32:19 PM

Finally, I am also a big believer in watching a player's body language and interactions with other players.  I often watch the Olympiacos TV spots of pre-game, training, dinners, etc, to see who hangs out with who, who seems to be having fun and working hard in training.  It is understandable players gravitate towards players speaking their language, so there is a tendency to form klikes. True leaders of the team bring the players together. Cambiasso is our current team leader - even if he doesn't wear the armband. I had hopes that Kosta could be a player like this for us, but so far, have not seen it, and I don't see him being a player like this.

Nobody gets along with him bc he became too selfish, stopped passing the ball and was more worried about his stats and getting a transfer!! When I speak about some locker room drama people in here claim that I talk out of my ass...then they find out the truth months later Kai Kanoun tis kotes!!

8yra7 has targeted him for the exact reason I wrote above!! Now if he's too scared to fight and win the fans back, it's his problem, not ours!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on September 17, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
If our best XI were taliban I would be fine with that.
For me there's no debate: this is a meritocracy, not a charity or protectionist endeavor.

I'm more than fine if a Greek never plays for our club ever again.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 17, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
The problem must be attitude rather than ability if you ask me. Fortounis can play but where there is smoke there is fire.
Georgatos was shown the door, Maniatis has been frozen out, Siovas was being pushed to transfer out so there must have been something going on with the Greek players and a clique.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Adrastos on September 17, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
It's certainly looking that way.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 17, 2016, 07:31:59 PM
Quote
if i wanted to suppport a team that dosent give a fuck about its roots ill be a chelsea fan.

And if I wanted to support a team full of Greek gatakia I would only follow the NT!!

I'll take 11 Fusters over 11 Fortounides or Maniatides ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!


siga re u dont support the nt.kseroxestika if u do or if u dont.dosent change my life.neither does u supporting foreigners  make u a bigger fan of olympiacos .ill take giannakopoulos,stoltidis,georgatos anytime over riera,belluschi,greco.OLYMPIAKARA will always be greek.the anti greeks here go to THE EPL.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 17, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
You would take the mouni Georgato with his Greek klikes?LOL I guess you don't care that he was a locker room cancer right?or that he fucked his teammates wife with others from his klika?

I'll take Tzole, Galetti, Giovanni, Melberg, Saviola, Cambiasso, Fuster any day over anyone you throw out there! I won't even get into 80's and 90's players ie. Detari, Funes, etc giati tha zalisteis!Lol

O OLYMPIAKOS EINAI O LAOS TOU..Kai to stamataw edw
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 17, 2016, 07:47:42 PM
You would take the mouni Georgato with his Greek klikes?LOL I guess you don't care that he was a locker room cancer right?or that he fucked his teammates wife with others from his klika?

I'll take Tzole, Galetti, Giovanni, Melberg, Saviola, Cambiasso, Fuster any day over anyone you throw out there! I won't even get into 80's and 90's players ie. Detari, Funes, etc giati tha zalisteis!Lol

O OLYMPIAKOS EINAI O LAOS TOU..Kai to stamataw edw

[/do u know how many superstars did malakies off the field?if he produces and makes us better that what matters.MICHEAL JORDAN WAS THE biggest dick to his teamnates.the biggest asshole so u wouldnt take him?kobe was a rapist.george best tried to bang all of his teamates wives,ill take any of those guys on my team.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 17, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
i can name a whole bunch of players from everysport where teams were divided with clickes and still won.all depends how pro u are when ure on the field.everyone hated kobe,5 nba rings.romario and bebeto couldnt stand each other and never spoke t each other and look what they did for brazil.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 17, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
I always want the best players to play... This is how you win. Unfortunately right now the Greek talent pool is in shambles, not very many good Greek players to choose from. However, you want me to speak from the heart, this is a Greek team. It was founded by Greeks and its supporters are Greek. It's soul is Greek. When Greek players represent OLYMPIAKOS -and do well, not out there to get their asses kicked and say look we have Greeks- but when we have Greeks who can ball there is no better feeling. I loved Giovanni, Tzole, Galetti, Chori is a legend and Cambiasso is one of my favorites ever and he's only been here a short time. But it cannot compare to when a Greek wears the fanella and represents it to the fullest. Stoltidis, Giannakopoulos, Karapialis... I loved these players. The soul of Olympiakos is Greek. This doesn't mean we can't have foreigners, this doesn't mean we should gift a starting spot to players unless they EARN it (you hear that Fortouni??) but I will always want Greeks who deserve it to be on the team. The mentality of our players needs to change, so does our football culture but that's another story. If each player could develop the work ethic and bravery of Stoltidi and the heart of Stelios it would be a dream. It's far and few between unfortunately. So for now, until some Greek players who deserve it come along... The best players must play. We are a club with ambition and we shouldn't settle for less.

To get back on topic Fortouni needs to pull his head out of his ass. Put your head down and work, this is the key to any sport. Why can't some players see this.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 17, 2016, 08:22:11 PM
awesome post.exactly how i feel.u said it perfectly.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakara10 on September 18, 2016, 03:22:20 AM
..................deleted

you have a problem with him...do it through pm, or visit him personally to discuss it. don't fuck every topic with your nonsense towards him.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 18, 2016, 08:49:27 AM
^so let me get this straight..after a night out in NY's gay clubs you were unable to land an african psolia, so you went home, inserted your  butt plug while sitting in frot of your computer , talking shit to your mom's gamia7!!!

What a fucken inbred nutjob you are!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 18, 2016, 08:38:11 PM
so the coach is saying the exact same thing that I've been preaching...talent alone is not enough at this level..takes a lot more..

when you're lacking in the physiological aspect you will never get to the next level as an athlete

"Σε κάθε παιχνίδι επιλέγουμε τους καλύτερους. Εμπιστεύομαι τον Φορτούνη. Θέλουμε να τον βοηθήσουμε να βρει τον καλό εαυτό του. Του έχουμε ξεκαθαρίσει τι θέλουμε από εκείνον και τι πρέπει να αλλάξει. Έχει τεράστιο ταλέντο αλλά στο σύγχρονο ποδόσφαιρο δεν αρκεί μόνο το ταλέντο."

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on September 19, 2016, 09:20:10 PM
(http://s21.postimg.org/b9yoj7itj/gavros_2016_09_20.jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Marcus on September 21, 2016, 07:45:08 AM
Ο Σταύρος Γεωργακόπουλος γράφει για τον Φορτούνη που έδωσε δικαιώματα, τον Μπέντο που εξάντλησε την αυστηρότητα και διαπιστώνει ότι ο Έλληνας διεθνής μέσος πρέπει να παίζει στον Ολυμπιακό.

http://www.sport24.gr/Columns/stavros-georgakopoulos/kopste-to-laimo-sas-na-paiksei-o-fortounhs.4275064.html
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 21, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
^

Για να μην πάμε ακόμη πιο πίσω και ψάξουμε το τι έκανε πέρυσι το καλοκαίρι. Αν είχε προσέξει δηλαδή τον εαυτό του ή αν επέστρεψε με τους δείκτες φυσικής κατάστασης σε κακό χάλι, με αποτέλεσμα να μπει στο τρίτο και πιο αργό γκρουπ στις πρώτες προπονήσεις της προετοιμασίας

στο χθεσινό φιλικό με τον Απόλλωνα Σμύρνης γύρισε κάποια στιγμή προς τον πάγκο, ρώτησε πόση ώρα έχουν παίξει, ενημερώθηκε πως είχε περάσει μισή ώρα και στο “καπάκι” αναρωτήθηκε αν θα γίνουν δύο 45άλεπτα. Κι όποιος κατάλαβε, κατάλαβε...

ΑΠΟΚΛΕΙΣΤΙΚΑ ΑΦΙΕΡΩΜΕΝΟ ΣΤΟ ΜΟΥΝΟΠΑΝΟ10 ΚΑΙ ΣΤΑ ΓΑΤΑΚΙΑ ΛΑΒΕΡΣ!! ;)

p.s. good article by Georgakopoulo but the subject title is SHIT!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 21, 2016, 07:58:58 AM
The problem must be attitude rather than ability if you ask me.

ATTITUDE+ABILITY (can't play at a top level if you're not up to par in the physiological aspect)

side note: I would add + NO ARXIDIA to become a leader!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red or Dead on September 21, 2016, 07:32:09 PM
Best Greek player and best player in Greece. Give him a month and he'll be back in the 1st team. How can you forget he was top goal scorer last year? His game against Arsenal? Easily best player at the club.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 21, 2016, 09:37:17 PM
I don't think anyone disputes he is one of the best  Greek players but going by the reports he has a serious attitude problem.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 22, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
eventually bento is going to have to settle on an 11, you can't be changing 4 players every game. bento can say he plays those who do well in practice but he has basically just shown he doesn't know who the strong players are yet (logically given the circumstances) and is playing different players to see how it goes.

however fortounis also got benched by silva i think for a few weeks to straighten out, whether its a serious attitude problem i don't know, i think he is a good kid who loves the game and oly (childhood fan i think) and will straighten out, if that indeed is the issue. idk i don't believe some of the over the top stuff.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 22, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
If he works hard and uses this benching as motivation rather than sulk then we will see an even improved Fortounis.
However he is denial if we are to believe the reports. Bento has assured him that he will get his chance when he is 100% fit, Fortounis reply to him is that he is already 100%.... bad attitude .

And I don't buy into the argument that Marin isn't fit but playing because Marin himself has admitted he isn't 100% and is getting the game time to build that fitness.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 26, 2016, 09:43:22 AM
Μπηκε ο παιχταρας αντι του Μαριν για να παρει το ματσακι!! γελαει ο κοσμος!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on September 26, 2016, 08:33:26 PM
Προπονήθηκε με τα Μετέωρα ο Κωστής Φορτούνης

Mια έκπληξη περιλάμβανε η προπόνηση των Μετεώρων την Δευτέρα στο Δημοτικό Στάδιο Καλαμπάκας «Βασίλης Καρακίτσιος». Στην πρώτη προπόνηση της εβδομάδος συμμετείχε ο Καλαμπακιώτης ποδοσφαιριστής του Ολυμπιακού Κωστής Φορτούνης,...
ο οποίος είχε το ρεπό του την Δευτέρα και το αφιέρωσε στην προπόνηση.

Ο άσσος του Ολυμπιακού προπονήθηκε κανονικά με την ομάδα των Μετεώρων στην οποία αγωνίζεται και ο αδερφός του Θοδωρής και πέρασε ένα εξαιρετικό ποδοσφαιρικό απόγευμα λίγο διαφορετικό από τα συνηθισμένα.

Ο Κωστής ευχήθηκε καλή τύχη στην ομάδα της Καλαμπάκας και να πετύχει του στόχους της.

Η Διοικούσα Επιτροπή του ΑΣ Μετέωρα, τον ευχαριστεί πολύ για την στήριξη του και του εύχεται υγεία και πάντα επιτυχίες.

http://www.ekalampaka.gr/portal/article.asp?articleid=19668&lang=gr


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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 28, 2016, 11:03:45 AM
^I'm glad he didn't get injured walking on that shit field!!!

ΜΥΑΛΟ ΚΟΥΚΟΥΤΣΙ!!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 28, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
You're not wrong. Very risky training in those sort of paddocks.

Anyway, it looks like he will be given his  chance against Apoel. If he plays well he will also start with aekaki. It's up to him really.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 04:41:57 PM
when you're missing chances from inside the ''mikri perioxi''..when you're tripping allover yourself and turning the ball over most of the time..when you're slowing down your teams attack..when you're 'hiding' on the field and only wait for the ball to come to you...then you're NOT what WE NEED OR WANT!

SALTA KAI GAMISOU GATAKI..PAIXTAKI TIS PLAKAS!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
LOCKEROOM CANCER!!

Tsori was obviously upset and disappointed that he couldn't help the club and Fortouni just smirks (KOITA YFAKI) on the bench and eggs him on by asking him why he didn't get in the game!?!

(http://www.sportdog.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/inside_large/article/2016_09/tsori-fortou.jpg)

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 29, 2016, 06:16:30 PM
very disingenious and low from you, but you know that. pretty distasteful if we are honest,and if you saw the whole clip like im sure some did here while watching the game you would know that wasn't what it looked like.

real olympiakos fan huh, pathetic.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 29, 2016, 06:31:04 PM
Re file, you need to relax with this Fortouni stuff. It's gone too far, you are obsessed and it's getting ridiculous.

I couldn't watch the game until I got home from work, but following on here I was expecting this disasterous game. Low and behold I'm watching the game and he created imo 3 of the best chances we had in the first 20 min. It was his pass on the barely offside goal Ideye scored, he put it on a rope to de la Bella who should have buried that header and he put a through ball to Marin that put him on goal in a very nice position. I'm not even a huge fan of his (I didn't even want to sign him) but your hate for him is becoming a complex. I'm just being honest... I'm by no means saying he had a great game but he didn't stick out. He had a few turnovers but I also saw Ideye and Marin turn the ball over, as well as others... It happens. He had a chance he should of buried but he had 2-3 players in front of him and did not hit it well. Shows a player lacking confidence. He also needs to try and get more involved/run but again I believe he is lacking confidence right now. Should have been subbed off earlier for Chori IMO also. I feel like all of your frustration this year is being bottled up and pointed towards him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 06:57:10 PM
Chris,

Some people are obsessed with Ideye...some with DaCosta..others with Fetfa..some with Seba..others with Maniati...catch my drift?

Let me have my opinion (have been right about everything I've said so far about him and other gatakia) and I'll let you have your opinion

I'm not posting about "Chris" so you should just stick to the topic which is not "gavros7"..and tell the idiot above you that as far as I know gavroi don't get fucked by anyone..he's too used to hanging around his vazelo counterparts!

Over sensitive gatakia..why don't you say anything to inferno and his obsessions with Siova, DaCosta, etc??(just using him as an example)..mipws poneses ki'esu?commenting on my comments regarding Fortounis play in a match you didn't see!!yup makes sense!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: oliakos on September 29, 2016, 06:57:32 PM
Fortounis was exactly stirring the pot..no question about it. 100%

http://dai.ly/x4vbbzu
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 07:02:32 PM
^Den ta'mathes ta nea??You're not an Olympiakos fan either!!LOL
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 29, 2016, 07:18:41 PM
I agree with Oliakos and g7 based on what I saw also.  I also agree with Chris that Fortounis has poor confidence right now.  What I ultimately question, is Fortounis' mental toughness to overcome this difficulty and get back in form.  I am having my doubts, it's not going to happen here.  I thought at one point he could be a leader for this team, but I was completely wrong. 

He's worth $10 million on trasnfermarkt, I'm more and more hopeful that we get a nice bid for him this winter. 

(Contrast his smirking and attitude shaking his head, with Chori who is a complete professional, or Cambiasso, another class act, who was subbed off and shook Bento's hand).  Professionalism is very important to the club and keeps the harmony and the locker room intact even when we suffer defeats.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 29, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
-Some people are obsessed with Ideye...some with DaCosta..others with Fetfa..some with Seba..others with Maniati...catch my drift?-

None of it has reached this level. Not even close...

-Let me have my opinion (have been right about everything I've said so far about him and other gatakia) and I'll let you have your opinion-

Everyone is entitled to opinions, but you have a blind hatred for him at this point and you plaster it in almost every topic on every other post. You cannot rationally disect a game or play bc it's pure blind hatred.


-Over sensitive gatakia..why don't you say anything to inferno and his obsessions with Siova, DaCosta, etc??(just using him as an example)..mipws poneses ki'esu?commenting on my comments regarding Fortounis play in a match you didn't see!!yup makes sense!!-

I did see the game, if you read my post... That's what made me comment. Why would I comment on something I didn't see for myself? Seeing the play on the field verses your comments which are way off, that's what made me post.  Inferno is not wrong in what he says about out Siova or Da Costa. It's not because he hates them but based what he sees on the field, which I also see. Your blindly crucifying a player no matter what he does. Fortouni really did not play that bad. He wasn't great but wasn't horrible. He created some decent chances.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 07:58:37 PM
You don't agree with me, post your counter points and that's it..I didn't ask for your opinion regarding my obsession as you put it..I have been speaking out against the gataki since last season, not only this season..you're too late for the party..

Talk football and present your points and facts..stop acting like you're the shrink bro..nobody fucKen asked you about my feelings..u wanna talk about your feelings go on a date with Kozani

P.s. Fortouni shit himself once again..if you're too blind to see it, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 29, 2016, 09:03:23 PM
Chris, there's a big difference between Fortounis and the other hacks I bag out. Fortounis last year singlehandedly  won us the title with his goals and assists ,that's why I'm not ready to burn him. For me he has much to offer if he sets himself right mentally .
The other hacks have just been a liability for us. They've cost us more points than what they have delivered .
Now ,as to Fortounis actions on the bench, I'm no lip reader or body language expert but I'm 99% certain he was stirring the pot. Winding Chori up. Not that he was wrong in his opinion, Chori needed to play but it's not Fortounis job to shut stir .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 29, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
he wasn't good but there was worse. if i had to do ratings

figueras - 3          botia - 3.5          da costa - 2          de la bella - 4.5


----------------------mili - 4                cambi - 4


seba - 2                               fortounis - 5                        marin - 6


---------------------------------ideye - 5.5
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 29, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
@Inferno: completely agree, well said.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on September 29, 2016, 09:12:19 PM
Gavros reporting that he got injured in the match last night.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 29, 2016, 09:14:02 PM
i agree he was bagging the manager and he shouldn't (although what do the players when they saw what they saw), i don't think he was teasing chori, which i found ridiculous, that would be cruel and sneaky and it didn't look like that to me.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 29, 2016, 09:43:16 PM
Chris, there's a big difference between Fortounis and the other hacks I bag out. Fortounis last year singlehandedly  won us the title with his goals and assists ,that's why I'm not ready to burn him. For me he has much to offer if he sets himself right mentally .
The other hacks have just been a liability for us. They've cost us more points than what they have delivered .
Now ,as to Fortounis actions on the bench, I'm no lip reader or body language expert but I'm 99% certain he was stirring the pot. Winding Chori up. Not that he was wrong in his opinion, Chori needed to play but it's not Fortounis job to shut stir .


That's the point I was trying to make, hard to compare Fortounis with the others mentioned. That said he better get his shit together, dipping form and losing confidence is one thing. Checking out mentally/bad attitude is another. No tolerance for that.

As for the video, I must have missed it during the game. Hard to know what was said but if he was stirring the pot I would sit his ass until he shapes up.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
i agree he was bagging the manager and he shouldn't (although what do the players when they saw what they saw), i don't think he was teasing chori, which i found ridiculous, that would be cruel and sneaky and it didn't look like that to me.


Another kwlotoumpa by the resident Olympian!! Eisai palio Kota mwri linatsa!!when I said he was a shit stirrer what was your response you fat pussy??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 29, 2016, 11:12:08 PM
Inferno,
Fortouni does not get a "get out of jail free card" just bc he had a great 1st half last season..he will be judged on his overall appearances and especially on his current form..right now he deserves to be practicing with the academies..he certainly shouldn't be starting ahead of Chori, Martins and Marin!

Opoios den mporei, na paei na gamithei..we're not a charity
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on September 30, 2016, 03:02:09 AM
Ο Κώστας Φορτούνης αγωνίστηκε μετά από αρκετό καιρό και πάλι στο βασικό σχήμα του Ολυμπιακού έχοντας καλή απόδοση.

Ο ίδιος θα ήθελε να βοηθήσει κι άλλο και να αγωνιστεί μέχρι το τέλος της αναμέτρησης, όμως στο 64΄ο Πάουλο Μπέντο τον αντικατέστησε, με τον Έλληνα μέσο να αποχωρεί κουτσαίνοντας από τον αγωνιστικό χώρο του «Γ. Καραϊσκάκης», δείχνοντας πως αντιμετώπιζε κάποιο πρόβλημα.

Τελικά ο «Φόρτου» ένιωσε κάποιες ενοχλήσεις στον οπίσθιο μηριαίο και σήμερα θα επανεξεταστεί η κατάστασή του καθώς ακολουθεί και το ματς με την ΑΕΚ.


(http://www.gavros.gr/Media/Default/_Profiles/b196ead4/18ed3e98/1536303-(1).jpg)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 06:27:26 AM
Gavros reporting that he got injured in the match last night.

has he posted a picture of his chicken leg on instagram yet?? time to make some more excuses to his followers!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on September 30, 2016, 02:38:56 PM
i agree he was bagging the manager and he shouldn't (although what do the players when they saw what they saw), i don't think he was teasing chori, which i found ridiculous, that would be cruel and sneaky and it didn't look like that to me.


Another kwlotoumpa by the resident Olympian!! Eisai palio Kota mwri linatsa!!when I said he was a shit stirrer what was your response you fat pussy??

shit stirring is one thing, telling chori "what did Bento just do" when everybody was puzzled by it is not nearly the same thing.  you said he teased chori, which was wrong. and you say he is a cancer, what he did isn't cancerous even if he thought it was odd. just like marin making gestures when he thought he was subbed doesn't mean he is cancerous. but that is the line you want to peddle and desperate to prove.

again you assume things, fill in the blanks in your own head, and make accusations about posters flipflopping when you misread or misunderstand. and you namecall to top it off. good job, good discussion.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 30, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
fourtounis not tthe problem on this team.theres many and it starts from the top all the way to the bottom.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 03:37:23 PM
Kozani you're a lying piece of shit..I never said he teased Tsori..he would've got bitch slapped had he done that

are you really crying that I called u a fat pussy??after you write malakies that Fortouni fucked someone in these forums??you dummy I would kick your Jaw so hard while you're sucking Fortouni's dick, that it would castrate him..gatakia tne two of you!!

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 03:55:52 PM
fourtounis not tthe problem on this team.theres many and it starts from the top all the way to the bottom.

You're mentioning off field/front office things..I'm talking about football..how come we've been watching some good fluid movement and also great defending when the gataki doesn't play??he gets in the game and all of a sudden everyone remembers how bad DaCosta is..of course they forgot about Botia and Figuieras, but their turn will come!

If you don't think his onfield behavior and his shit talking in the bench is not a problem, then there's nothing else to say
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on September 30, 2016, 06:24:16 PM
what fluid.do u realize we are not a good team.we have no tsabouka,no gameplan,no strategy other then lobing the ball into the box .we dont have that kind of team.playing this way means the manager thinks we have no talent.plain and simple.other then one game we havent impressed .this is not the olympiacos that i know and want,
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 30, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
Fortounis was out of that game for 30 min.... We looked no better or dangerous or fluid. As I said before, he created 3 of our better chances in the game for me. Only other stand out pass that I remember was Martins beautiful pass in the 2nd half. And he didn't even have a good match.  I don't think one player makes that much of a difference, frankly I don't see it. Since when does Olympiakos come down to one player?? There is something else going on. He didn't start vs Larisa and we didn't look good. And I'm saying this not even being happy with him at all at the moment. He has to fix what's between the ears and also work harder. But let me ask this, what if Fortouni had reacted the way Marin did to being taken off? He would be hung by his balls from atop Karaiskaki. Is Marin a cancer? There is a double standard.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 08:29:01 PM
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Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 08:30:58 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on September 30, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 30, 2016, 08:50:43 PM
Take your Fortouni jersey off and stop making excuses for him...Olympiakos ALWAYS had that one player that was able to put the team on his back and carry them when they were stuck..that's what leaders do!


That's just it, for me Fortouni is NOT a leader. He's not good enough!! Since when is he a super star? He has not worked on strengthening himself, he is not mentally strong. He had a good year last year, he showed promising signs but he did NOT take the step to the next level. Is it disappointing? Yes. Should we curse him out and throw him to the waste side because of that or just see him for what he is? We were all hoping he could step into that role but he hasn't. That doesn't mean he can't still HELP this team. When he is on form he can be a damn good player, no reason to turn and push away a player.

I don't see any true leaders on this team (offensively, Cambiassio obviously) except Chori and yet we don't play him!!!! I hope Marin can do it, but we have to see. I cannot judge him yet. Who is our leader??
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 30, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
BTW, tell us about Seba's outstanding pass to Fortouni..he had the entire net to kick it to and he chose to tap it on the defender!!GATAKI that shits himself..he doesn't deserve to be wearing our fanela..and then you wonder why Fanatic claims we don't have tsampouka!!



It's easy to pick and choose... You are having double standards. I see a player with low confidence and out of form. It happens, it's not a fucking excuse. Yes let's rubbish every player that doesn't cut it 100% of the time. If that's the case we should have fucked off Ideye months ago for the sitters he has missed!!! But look at him now, he is playing much better and found some form and you can see the confidence. I don't see that in Fortouni right now. I'm hoping he finds it because when he does he can be USEFUL, we have SEEN him do it. He's not an F'ing superstar and he's not some one trick let me dribble one guy ride the bench and have everyone scream that I'm the next Messi actual GATAKI. He has shown me enough that he can be a good player. I've seen him do it. If we are going to disect players when they fail (which all players do) then we might as well cut our whole team. If his name was Fortune instead of Fortounis and came from Spain you wouldn't be ripping him apart right now. And I say it AGAIN, he could of had 3 assists yesterday had things worked out better. He could of had a goal but did not take his chance confidently. It happens.

Doesn't deserve to wear our fanella... FFS he helped us win a F'ing championship last year but let's throw him to the wolves... I have a long list of players who have accomplished ALOT less that you defend that shouldn't be wearing our fanella on our team at this very moment. But we need to support them TOO!!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on September 30, 2016, 10:08:39 PM
Fortounis sucks dude.

I've seen enough of him and he's at best a bench player but not for our club. 
He has no vision or pace. 
Him and Marin are so terrible together but that's probably due to chemistry.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 07:18:13 AM
BTW, tell us about Seba's outstanding pass to Fortouni..he had the entire net to kick it to and he chose to tap it on the defender!!GATAKI that shits himself..he doesn't deserve to be wearing our fanela..and then you wonder why Fanatic claims we don't have tsampouka!!



It's easy to pick and choose... You are having double standards. I see a player with low confidence and out of form. It happens, it's not a fucking excuse. Yes let's rubbish every player that doesn't cut it 100% of the time. If that's the case we should have fucked off Ideye months ago for the sitters he has missed!!! But look at him now, he is playing much better and found some form and you can see the confidence. I don't see that in Fortouni right now. I'm hoping he finds it because when he does he can be USEFUL, we have SEEN him do it. He's not an F'ing superstar and he's not some one trick let me dribble one guy ride the bench and have everyone scream that I'm the next Messi actual GATAKI. He has shown me enough that he can be a good player. I've seen him do it. If we are going to disect players when they fail (which all players do) then we might as well cut our whole team. If his name was Fortune instead of Fortounis and came from Spain you wouldn't be ripping him apart right now. And I say it AGAIN, he could of had 3 assists yesterday had things worked out better. He could of had a goal but did not take his chance confidently. It happens.

Doesn't deserve to wear our fanella... FFS he helped us win a F'ing championship last year but let's throw him to the wolves... I have a long list of players who have accomplished ALOT less that you defend that shouldn't be wearing our fanella on our team at this very moment. But we need to support them TOO!!

good post chris.some ppl are obsessed with SKATAKIA.they want foreigners with no talent to come here that have little or no talent and who dont give a fuck about our fanella.they want the babangidas and yekinis.dont get e worng.fourtounis is not impressing me either but nor will i blame him for our woes.our team is not good enough.either our managers suck or we got the wrong players.ive seen teams lose  there best player and end up winning there resepctive championships.i have seen teams do shit all year and then a coaching change happens and all of a sudden makes the team go all the way .we have to figure out which is it.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 09:19:10 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 09:24:17 AM
Chris,
don't tell me that he's  not a fucking superstar..tell it to the gataki lovers that are OK that he's causing drama, walking around the field and starts ahead of Chori, Martins and  Marin! Tell it to the gatakia that are condoning him disrespecting the club who put him on the football map!

FANATIC,
Instead of bringing up Babaginda, why don't you bring up players that were relevant..some of you have the worst counter arguments that I have ever heard!!LOL you should've never quit the debate team in high school LOL

you still waiting on Mendrino to do something??LOLOL


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 01, 2016, 09:37:51 AM
complains about greek klikes.

one greek starts.

blames one greek for loss.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 09:47:20 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:03:48 AM
Chris,
don't tell me that he's  not a fucking superstar..tell it to the gataki lovers that are OK that he's causing drama, walking around the field and starts ahead of Chori, Martins and  Marin!

FANATIC,
Instead of bringing up Babaginda, why don't you bring up players that were relevant..some of you have the worst counter arguments that I have ever heard!!LOL you should've never quit the debate team in high school LOL

you still waiting on Mendrino to do something??LOLOL



siga re mr debater.your the guy who blew a load over periera.remember him LOL.-ti gelia.noody has forgotten that here llol
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:11:53 AM
 said this before and I'll say it again..we have struck GOLD with this guy!! he literally changed the team after one practice and in toympa WON us the title that Michel lost!!


remember this expert lol lol lol.your words llol
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:15:13 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:15:35 AM
why i mentioned players.u want me to go back and name olot more.secondly i never said dont sign foreigners.i only  preach that we should only if they are olot better thne local talent.it not only benefits us more in the pocket but its highly more likely the local kids will play more for the shirt then assasins.yes we have had players who came abroad and played there hearts out for us but then we get the RIERAS who dont give a fuck.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:18:01 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
Yeah start reading my posts from the 3rd half of the season till today eksypnakia..everything I said about him BEFORE the fact turn out to be true..his lack of work and desire to improve has DESTROYED his career..he can go back to Germany and sell beer to fans in the stands for all I care!
i just find him way to young to give up on him thats all.yes i admit the greek in me has olot of clout on fourtounis but i want us to be 100 per sure hes not what we thought he was b4 giving up on him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:20:02 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:20:24 AM
Re agori mountain I'm talking about the current situation not your famtasy or our past..

CURRENTLY: Chori>Marin>Martins>Fortouni


funny how u like to bring back previous posts when u argue with kozani and what he has said long t ime ago but when its directed to u u use the present.file u should defend what u said in the past and in present unless u have admitted u are worng.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:22:19 AM
Someone who is a little more logical would compare our starting 10 with OTHER starting 10aria..not my fault if you and Kozani lack logic and reason!!

thank god u have a 9to 5 job and u are very far away from any management job at olympiacos.i do admit u would be great at the front lines throwing stones at gate 13 hooligans lol.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:25:09 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:27:22 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:29:53 AM
ela re g7.thats modern football.all these guys have agents.for fucks sake most of these kids are controlled by the age of 12 from there academies.agents have fucked up the game.do u have netflix.u should wastch the ronaldo self made documentary.u should see the dinner scene ronaldo has with his family and agent.just listen to what he says in that scene and u will wanna puke how fake his.he basically spoke for all agents.i still get riled up how stupid ronaldo was looking at him and believing the crap.but thats onother story .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
Thank God you're not making decisions to insist on greek gatakia..we would be in the same mess Koula and PoA were/are!! ;)


ill tell u one thing.if i was i would still win the same amount of protathlima with a predominately greek team and salaries would be helping local greek families as to africains.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:46:32 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:51:20 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 10:58:55 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 11:57:11 AM
kopse tis malakies re.dont try and bully a bigger bully bud.who the fuck u think u are  here re?go jerk off to the abdouns and rieras of the world.and yes 23 is still young.BIGGER MALAKES have been given alot more time and with bigger attitudes.hey i found a perfect job for u.be a scout in africa for olympiacos.we will listen to ure expert knowledge of africain players.oh but no input on managers.your just horrible in that category.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 12:04:31 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 12:14:05 PM
ill take giannakopoulos everyday all day over your nunez and belluschis.and please dont talk about dealing with athletes.i was involved with proffesional soccer and also have a good friend who played for panathanaikos as a third goalie in greece and in uefa cups back in the day,. i know exactly the inner workings of how things are run especially in greece.
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Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 01:22:07 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 04:55:27 PM
i was paid to play soccer .i was also behind the scenes when th eteam was formed and worked for free to see if i wanted to be in management.soccer wasnt huge here like it is now so i countinued my current job.as for the comparison i was dead right.no apples to oranges.u picked out a star foreigner to make ure point and i picked out the SKATAKIA that we had over a greek player.very simple comparison.secondly hes not a vazelo.u do know ppl that play pro sports go where the mmoney is or u just to busy jerking off to periiera and forgot  how the world of soccer goes?so what capacity are u the expert on athletes?dont u t hink thats impotant since u brought it up???
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 05:10:55 PM
 as for us going for greek talent HELLL YA.i also have uncles who are aek and pao fans.should i avoid them too tough guy??ti gelia PORK LOVER.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 05:26:22 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 01, 2016, 05:37:27 PM
re kathiki u the one who acts smart here.your fucken getting annoying here.we all know how olympiacos has won but YOU FUCKEN DONT.stop cursing this kid.its getting old.we all know how special many foreigners were  for us.im trying to tell u that HES NOT THE ONLY FUCKEN PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE.den akous.ese poli kserokefalas.im not even sayng foutrounis will become a superstar but goddammit give the guy some time.he had great year last year.u cant become skata after a year.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Adrastos on October 01, 2016, 06:28:01 PM
Common re guys,  let's not get riled up over this.  TF relax man.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 01, 2016, 07:44:28 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on October 02, 2016, 07:30:57 AM
ela re.you know i love you.we go way back.like u said lets kick some ass today.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 02, 2016, 03:30:34 PM
Now that we have all kissed and made up , I don't think we can fault Fortounis performance today. Apart from the goal he put in a decent performance today .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 02, 2016, 03:39:35 PM
was great today, ran everywhere, pressed everywhere, earned fouls, and got a goal near the end. i thought he was the second best player today behind martins, and he can build on this.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 03, 2016, 11:13:24 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 03, 2016, 10:01:42 PM
he ran out of steam, but so did martins. so the manager took martins out first and fortounis later.

and marin says he likes playing with Fortounis, it should work
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 04, 2016, 08:42:07 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on October 08, 2016, 08:18:30 PM
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Νέα απώλεια για την εθνική ομάδα ποδοσφαίρου - από τραυματισμό – και ο Κώστας Φορτούνης. Ο Τρικαλινός μεσοεπιθετικός, σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες, γνωστοποίησε ότι έχει ενοχλήσεις στο πόδι και δήλωσε ότι με δυσκολία μπορεί να αγωνιστεί. Κρίθηκε λοιπόν, από τους αρμόδιους, σκόπιμο να αποκλειστεί από την αποστολή.

Από την πλευρά της ΕΠΟ δεν υπάρχει επίσημη εξήγηση, παρά μόνο ενημέρωση ότι ο Φορτούνης δεν θα ταξιδέψει στο Ταλίν, για την αναμέτρηση με την Εσθονία (10/10). Προφανώς η απουσία του Φορτούνη (αναδείχθηκε καλύτερος παίχτης με την Κύπρο) δημιουργεί έντονο πονοκέφαλο στον Σκίμπε και τους συνεργάτες του. Αφού πρόκειται για έναν από τους πλέον φορμαρισμένους, διεθνείς.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on October 16, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on October 21, 2016, 08:57:43 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on October 21, 2016, 01:35:27 PM
He had a fantastic game. He was everywhere, dishing passes moving the ball, attacking players causing them all kinds of problems. Good hussle also. Liked what I saw, let's keep having games like this!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 22, 2016, 06:18:16 PM
Fortounis was one of our best players against Astana. The team plays well when Fortounis plays well . He's coming into some nice form. He now needs to continue show this form in the bigger matches.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 22, 2016, 10:44:10 PM
he is the wildcard and extremely important, and i would argue most important and talented attacker on the team, because he has the creative mind and talent to do the unpredictable which the others don't.

he needs to hit the net a few times and atleast get his shot on target to truly be back, but he had a very good game and was a constant threat.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 23, 2016, 05:17:37 PM
Average game against the Bougatses and I would have hooked him after he took that free kick  from the side and tried  to beat the keeper from an impossible angle.
Chori should have  replaced him
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 23, 2016, 11:47:59 PM
he had a pretty good game i thought, he along with el yanousi where the better players on the field. i wouldn't say he was at a high level but better than the others.

the touch and pass to ideye on the first goal was great, and he was involved in the winner albeit by recovering the ball and playing a simple pass.

set pieces, i think he scored a goal like that last year, and now he keeps trying it like an idiot, its pretty frustrating to see him keep attempting it tbh. also tried it against APOEL and hit the post tho (unless he just mishit the cross), maybe the manager doesn't mind idk.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 29, 2016, 04:17:43 PM
The precision  cross to Ideye was world class in my opinion. Πάρε βάλε .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 31, 2016, 10:53:15 PM


Thrylos fanatic, dont give up on us my friend.
99% of the posters are happy to have proper discussions . Your opinion is just as valuable as everyone else's in here. When Oliako and Taki activate the ignore tab we will finally be able to get some normality back and guys will be comfortable to participate again.
Come back and let's celebrate Fortounis πάρε βάλε assists together. There will be more of them, he single handedly  won us the title last season with his assist and goals and his assist on Saturday netted us the points. It's unfortunate  for him that he has a Hellenic surname. If he was Fortouniz the Argentinian or  Fortounic the Serbian we would be reading different things in here.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 01, 2016, 01:10:29 AM
i remember patsatzoglou making a comment about how he wished the fans appreciated the greeks as much as they do the foreigners, and how he notices a very different reaction based on nationality. anybody else remember, i think it was as he leaving to go to cyprus.

anyways regarding fortounis, he is playing with a lot of passion now, i don't remember him celebrating goals this demonstratively last year. whether its because he is feeling the pressure to perform every week idk but i am glad to see him show so much passion.

i've said it before, to truly be back he needs to start hitting the net because this year his shooting has been off. but all things considered, he is having a good season and is crucial to the team if they are to make a run in europa.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 06, 2016, 04:00:04 PM
Fortounis had a good game and was involved in all our 3 goals against the rabbits
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on November 06, 2016, 09:00:57 PM
I thought the gataki had a GREAT game! Could have easily had 4 assists in this one. Was very involved and had some passion. Keep it up Kosta.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 24, 2016, 06:10:01 PM
The "gataki" played well in the 2nd half against Young Boys. Very nice free kick  goal. 
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 25, 2016, 01:32:32 PM
Best player on the team, most talented player on the team, most crucial player to the team.

Simple as that.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 26, 2016, 05:11:14 PM
I don't agree that he is the best player in the team. Fortounis is a very important player for us and has become influential in how our team plays , but I personally rate Chori and even Marin as better players. I'm not trying to diminish Fortounis quality because his goals and assists last season won us the league but he still has to work hard and keep improving aspects of his game.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on November 27, 2016, 01:24:11 AM
His weaknesses are shared by Marin, and Marin throughout his career hasn't fixed them tbh, he is the same player he is when he was a teen, and that why he was in Turkey last year and has been a dissapointment.

Difference is I think Fortounis actually strikes the ball much better, is more direct when he needs to be.

Chori in his prime was better, now i don't think so. Last year when they both played I thought Fortounis was better. And that is why I think Silva rated him higher also.

But fair enough.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: ThrylosG7 on November 27, 2016, 03:44:36 AM
Fortunis has improved - since he came to us and was given the chance to play a crucial position in a team like ours. Now if he can improve the accuracy of his execution - he then could well be on his way to being a very very good play - not just good with potential...
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 08, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
really needs to play in figueras more, a few times today the pass was on and he tried a near impossible through ball that was easily snuffed out.

i understand the team is stagnant and he is trying to make things happen, but a few of his decision in the attacking third were not good.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 12, 2016, 03:41:00 PM
He tried te same low percentage impossible passes again today. Very mediocre performance and was rightfully replaced.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on December 18, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
The Greek golden boy is looking like a 1 year wonder more and more. He needs to step it up. The whole club was running non stop today so his lack of work rate was glaring.

Are those 15 million offers still on the table?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 18, 2016, 04:33:17 PM
His form has been up and down lately, the  last  matches he's been below average. Right now though his only competition for his spot is Androutsos and that is Bento's fault because Marin and Chori won't get a look in.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 18, 2016, 05:10:37 PM
sometime midseason last year he was losing interest and silva had to bench him.

dissapointing to see him do the same this time, he hasn't learned at all. he needs competition or the bench the way he is going.

mitro his year back with us had no competition and slept walk and played bad, went to benfica the following year and tore it up, if he played bad to the bench he went.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on December 19, 2016, 04:48:03 PM
He's not mentally capable of taking his game to the next level. You have to be mentally strong to consistently play at a high level. Unfortunately Fortouni needs to be benched or have a player competing for his spot to keep him on his game which is unacceptable but it is what it is. Pisses me off.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 20, 2016, 05:16:58 AM
Thats what happens  when you have no competition for your place and are a comfortable starter week in week in out regardless of fluctuating form.

I bet if Marin and Chori were forcing Fortounis to the bench more regularly his attitude would change.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: G7oz on December 20, 2016, 09:45:48 AM
When his in the mood he is our best player. When he is disinterested he is a liability (this has been the case too often lately).
I think seeing the bench for a couple games straight will wake him up again. Piss poor that you need constant wake up calls at this level. Disappointing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 04, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
Scored a cracker today and had some other good moments also. Fortounis definitely has a shot on him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on January 04, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
Great game, very involved and scored a goalara. What a shot.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 14, 2017, 06:11:01 PM
Poor game against a Platanias, he should have been replaced . He has this tendency to drift in and out of matches, today he was completely out of it for 90minutes.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 15, 2017, 11:09:20 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on January 18, 2017, 05:42:37 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on January 18, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
so dissapointed in this guy
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 19, 2017, 12:38:55 AM
Why are you surprised. Our super coach Bento has  taken away  his competition. Chori has been frozen out,  Marin will get minutes only on the flanks and Fortounis knows he has  his spot secured. He was benched for a couple of games earlier in the season and the same needs to be done again
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 19, 2017, 09:27:56 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 22, 2017, 01:39:38 AM
Bento must take the blame for Fortounis form of late. He has given hi the jersey to take home with him.
Marin and Chori can play in his position but Bento has his favourites it seems.
Another average performance today.

His only saving grace is that his goals and form last season won us the title and he has scored some good goals this season also, which means his form has more to do with attitude rather than talent.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on January 22, 2017, 01:10:10 PM
he was in no way average inferno, i respectfully disagree. and i think he has been a sulky little shit lately lol but i don't judge his last game on his previous ones.

if this performance was in the middle of his good run of form last year i think everybody would aknowledge he had a good game, probably man on of the match. everybody is kind of just really down on him, rightfully so to some extent.

because this was kind of vintage fortounis, minus the goal, which i know we all want to start seeing.

he played a role in the first goal, was very energetic and was moving all about the pitch. earned fouls in dangerous spots, dribbled players, ran with the ball, created chances, made good runs.

very encouraging performance.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on January 22, 2017, 04:07:45 PM
I too thought he had a decent game. He easily could of had two assists if the players finished their chances.


Attitude is his problem and will always be. Can't stand players who don't have the right mindset. You can never work too hard/give full effort in sports. He thinks his shit doesn't stink. Needs to be benched and reminded you need to work for it.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 22, 2017, 04:08:52 PM
Ok,  he played better in the 2nd half but in the 1st  half he must have touched the ball 4-5 times and didnt so much with it on those occasions .
Look, when he is on, he is one of our best players, we all know what he can do , the problem Fortounis has is he drifts in and out of matches and sometimes plays as if he is disinterested.
I want him to bcome more consistent .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on January 22, 2017, 04:11:43 PM
I don't think we will ever see it from him. He doesn't have the mental strength/toughness to be consistently good at a high level.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 23, 2017, 08:44:11 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 30, 2017, 02:28:38 AM


I don't think we will ever see it from him. He doesn't have the mental strength/toughness to be consistently good at a high level.

18 goals 12 assists last season, he was very consistent last season .
He scored against Veria today (with a header ) but his goals and assists are way down from last season. He seemed to be playing better last season under Silva.
Not sure is it's his attitude and he has become complacent but the fact is last season he showed more consistency.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on January 30, 2017, 09:39:39 AM
Last year definitely, he had a good year. That's what gives us hope that he can do it. But that needs to continue from year to year for him to hit the next level. He has to show it. I don't think he's having a bad season per say at all. It's where we set the bar for him that makes it seem negative, overall he's not playing horrible. However his attitude is not good. I hope he figures it out.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on January 30, 2017, 08:38:55 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on January 30, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
he has been ok this year, different managers coming and going and a poor start that had fans on his back a bit. also he has kind of become the man for the greek nt and talks about where he will go at the end of the year may have distracted him and boosted his ego too much.

lately he has been playing better, and with all the away derbies, EL game, and cup games, he has more than enough time to make this season very memorable, as do all the players really. he is trending up right now and i think by years end everybody will be back to being very positive on him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 31, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
He won the super league player of the year for last season, and deservedly so.

Our European journey starts in a couple of weeks and we have 3 derbies away from home, it's these matches I want yo see him step up .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 31, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 31, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
So you're suggesting Fortounis was undeserving of the award?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 31, 2017, 03:58:49 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on January 31, 2017, 06:19:10 PM
Maybe so, but last season Fortounis was the MVP player of the season. His goals , assists and good form helped us to an easy title win .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 31, 2017, 06:29:55 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on January 31, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
^^ I think Fortounis deserved it last year, what we are disappointed in is the significant drop off from last year.  He was our best player and had a very successful season.  Still wonder what we'll see with him in the future, has his moments, but reminds me somewhat of Karagounis without the passion and more skill.  His physique and mental toughness aren't there to be having continued MVP type seasons in my mind.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on January 31, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
last year fortounis was awesome, true mvp. not like some say seba is mvp this year when he isn't doing half of what kwsta was doing. he wasn't only slightly better than his teammates, he was head and shoulders better, which makes this season a little disappointing SO FAR.

probably the last attacker to be that much better than his teammates in attack was a season or two earlier where mitro was having multigoal games with incredible ease. which was on another level to Fortounis imo.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on January 31, 2017, 11:31:19 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 01, 2017, 12:34:57 AM
@gavros7: those are just arguments from POA fans who see their team getting threatened for mid-table position from the likes of Platanias.  ;) We all know there is nothing to be taken for granted in the league.  Year in and year out, we're blessed to have some special performances on display for us to enjoy.  It's one of the perks of being an Olympiakos fan.  Fortounis season last year was really special, it was fun to watch, and he had some awesome moments starting with the beginning of the season. 

@Kozani: Good points, agree with that point. It was such a big season that it's really hard to see Fortounis this year playing 'OK'.  We projected a break out just from the numbers alone and the position, and who would've thought that with Ideye finding some form, that Fortounis wouldn't be part of the fun and along with Ideye wouldn't be an unstoppable duo?  There is still a long way to go until the season is done, we'll see if Fortounis can find some old magic, it was fun to watch.  I would say another big season like that was Chori recently before Fortounis came along (actually, Chori had two really strong MVP type seasons).
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 08:16:15 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 10:49:16 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 04:27:17 PM
As long as Fortounis bangs them in for us and Zeca controls their midfield by running like Forest Gump its happy days .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 01, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
They strive for Nova Awards while we strive for more championships.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 07:25:58 PM
It's not the prestigiousness of any award that validates  Fortounis being MVP last season. It's his performances , goals and assist.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 10:21:44 PM
https://youtu.be/-BZxJADqvak
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 10:29:11 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on February 01, 2017, 10:45:11 PM
Wait a sec - g7 are you blaming Fortunis for not scoring in the CL now?  That is a bit much no?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 10:46:42 PM
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Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on February 01, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
I see what you are saying... it is quite obvious.  Some of the arguments on the player have been going on for pages and pages.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 01, 2017, 11:25:56 PM
Here's a question. In the past 10 years, who is our best Greek player? 

Other than Maniatis, I think most of us would say Manolas, but can we name a top 5?

Here's my picks:

1) Manolas
2) Mitroglou
3) Stoltidis/Patsatzoglou
4) Avraam
5) Torosidis

Honorable Mention: Fortounis
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 11:32:46 PM
Do you mean GK own goal??  ::)
Fortounis had a  " hand" in our only away win in England to date . That's what I mean
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 11:41:24 PM
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Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 11:42:18 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 01, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
@g7: good call, didn't think about Nikopolidi although Georgato may have been more than 10 years ago?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 11:46:00 PM
What about Stelio and his golara against Porto?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 01, 2017, 11:46:59 PM
^^ last 10 years Inferno.  Stelio is definitely in the conversation if we said last 20 years, maybe near the top of the list.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 01, 2017, 11:50:48 PM
Fortouni was awesome for the first part of last season.never denied that..im disappointed that he didn't work on anything and that his mind is on transferring out of Greece!

For all his physical shortcomings Fortounis possesses the following

1. A good shot on him
2. Good with the dead ball
3. Good at running with the ball
4. A nice turn on him when receiving the ball.

Those attributes alone have allowed him to to stutter through this season with the odd goal and assist.

Everyone can see his form is down, nobody is denying that....everyone but Bento.

That's why it irks me when players are given the jersey to take home with them.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 01, 2017, 11:54:06 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 05, 2017, 11:37:00 PM
He knows how to find the net that's for sure. Scored against Iraklis today.
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Post by: gavros7 on February 07, 2017, 10:16:15 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on February 08, 2017, 03:44:10 PM
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Post by: Inferno7 on February 08, 2017, 05:58:26 PM
I don't like to see these types of things from players wearing our jersey. The coach needs to pull him aside and tell him he doesn't want that part of his game.

I do recall however similar dives from other players wearing our jersey  in previous years that actually resulted in us winning a penalty.
Surprisingly they were NOT abused like Fortounis  is. 

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 08, 2017, 07:40:09 PM
i think that was a pen, defender is wrongside and barges him in the back as he is lining up his leap.

he is a diver, but he wasn't on that play imo.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: george on February 08, 2017, 11:21:19 PM
Suspend this diving papara!!How embarrassing!!!

This is part of the game now. Best to accept it. Not like it's new to Olympiakos. Tzole has one of the most embarrassing dives of all time, the headbutt with Galatasaray's keeper.
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Post by: gavros7 on February 09, 2017, 08:23:30 AM
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Post by: gavros7 on February 09, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
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Post by: Kozani5 on February 09, 2017, 09:49:25 PM
it could have

he reached in to steal the ball way too late and there was contact. platellas is actually following the ball, retsos is impeding his path.

if you are going to reach in the box like that, you better get ball, unless you think platellas fouled him, which please don't tell me you do lol
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on February 10, 2017, 11:05:13 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: gavros7 on February 13, 2017, 08:38:03 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 13, 2017, 03:31:58 PM
Are you ok? You seem to be ruffled and ranting for some reason .
If Fortounis has a poor game it's posted in here.
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Post by: gavros7 on February 13, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 13, 2017, 03:48:59 PM
I'm  saying that if Fortounis  has a bad game I will post in in here. I try not be be selective in my criticism and praising of our players or coach.
I've  even asked for his benching at times.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 16, 2017, 11:56:40 PM
Fortounis isn't to blame because he is playing shit. The coach is to blame for playing him rain , hail or shine .
We all saw what a couple of weeks on the bench did for him earlier in the season.
But Bento has decided to finish Chori and freeze out Marin . Fortounis only competition right now is Androutsos.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 17, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
And here's an article by a journo who agrees that the non competition that Fortounis has for his spot is a problem .Players  become complacent when they have no competition for their spot. Fortounis should have been looking to improve on last seasons impressive stats and form, and not just sit on them .

I disagree with the author that Bento isn't to blame for Cardozo . It's obvious to everyone he is a former player yet he still picks him in the squad. His high wages may have a say in that though.

http://www.contra.gr/Columns/Comment/alexis-virvilis/olympiacos/to-faoyl-toy-mpento-den-einai-o-karntoso.4533424.html
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on February 17, 2017, 08:54:25 AM
While I don't disagree that is what is needed, I hate players who need to be "motivated". His attitude sucks. That one play yesterday sums it up. Seba didn't pass him the ball while in a good position and yes it was probably the wrong play, but don't throw your hands up in the air and sulk you ass clown. The ball got deflected right back to him but bc his back was turned instead of hustling it was lost. And the crowd rightly gave it to him.


Fix your attitude kid.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on February 17, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
^^^ bingo.  That one play really bothered me.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 17, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
first half he wasn't bad, he got in good spots and drew a bunch of fouls.

second half he didn't have much influence and was rightfully subbed.

playing with cardozo in front of you doesn't help.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 23, 2017, 05:43:29 AM
If ever there was a match that Fortounis needs to step up its this one.
If  Fortounis has a good game we will progress comfortably.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 23, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
Quiet first half, good 2nd half with a few goal creating assists .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on February 23, 2017, 04:00:12 PM
Very quiet first half, as was the same with everybody... but still you want this type,of player to pull the team up in moments like that.

2nd half was ALOT better. Could of had 4 assists today if players finished... but nobody will tell you that ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 23, 2017, 04:36:00 PM
its ok Chris, we are here to point these things out, you're right, with some luck Fortounis  would have had 4 goal assists. He's not playing as well as last season but there are sporadic moments where his contribution will lead to a goal or a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 23, 2017, 09:06:53 PM
^^ i agree

he gets outmuscled, he looks for the killer ball too often, defensively is meh, all valid criticisms. and people can focus on that. but he also earns his keep by running well with the ball and playing killer pass after killer pass.

bento will live w his flaws when he creates as much as he does.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 23, 2017, 09:29:54 PM
Look, Fortounis may not be as talented as vazelogavros7 who has played the game  at the highest level with football giant  Proodeftiki FC  , and he  may not be as dominating as vazelogavros7 was on the international stage showcasing  his worth on the dirt fields in Africa playing for the All Saints All stars FC , but the fact is when Fortounis plays well so does the team.

He's far from perfect but we're not going to let a glorified male masseur trying to pass himself off as a former elite football star diminish Fortounis contribution to the team, or any other Greek player for that matter.

Sometimes I wonder if there is jealousy involved in the unwarranted criticism of our Greek players.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on February 24, 2017, 12:25:27 AM
^^ agree about the point when Fortounis plays well so does the team.  He has creativity and the vision that can unlock the defenses, and he showed us these flashes at times this season.  The 10ari position is always important in football despite the progression of the game ( regression? ) that has sort of eliminated this position.  A smart pass or the ability to draw defenders opens up the game for the other attackers, and it's beautiful to watch. 

Fortounis is a temperamental player, Chris has said it before in some of the previous pages, mentally not tough, but when he's riding on confidence, there is something magical in his play that helps the team.  Here's hoping we see more of that the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 02, 2017, 11:33:06 PM
Fortounis came on as a sub  and his introduction  helped us turn the match  against Atromitos. score a goal with a  header also.
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Post by: Makrygiannis on March 03, 2017, 09:47:22 AM
Came in.. One assist and one goal in 30 minutes, turned the gam ein our favour. Bravo!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 04, 2017, 04:00:58 AM
Bento has come out and described Fortounis as the team's new leader.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 07, 2017, 04:15:49 AM
Let's see if Fortounis form improves and we see better performances now that abento is gone.  ;)
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on March 07, 2017, 04:37:43 AM
I'm waiting for him to take that next step and turn into a real leader. You see flashes of brilliance from him then settles into mediocrity for long stretches. C'mon Kosta take it to another level
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on March 08, 2017, 11:57:39 PM
i think its worth noting that the players around him kind of don't do much.

the strikers have been poor on the whole, seba has been out of form for a while and ely has been meh since his injury.

take the chances missed by teammates, less penalty goals, higher expectation, and thats some of the downturn.

the team just seems more disjointed, he is getting the ball deeper than he was last year which is very noticeable, even if he presses even with the striker at times.


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 09, 2017, 06:00:03 PM
Poor game against Besiktas .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 09, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
Very poor. It's a poor joke to put leader and him in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on March 09, 2017, 06:34:10 PM
he receives the ball so deep, he either has to beat 2 men to play a dangerous pass or try to earn a foul.

idk how many attacking mids can make the difference in situations like his. very easy to say where is the chances, but its not like he has time on the ball or that many options or is recieving the ball in great areas.

marin came on for him and you couldn't find him with a telescope.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on March 09, 2017, 06:40:10 PM
Ya I just can't put my finger on what the issue is with him. I personally thing its all mental and focusing. Without trying to throw him under the bus I think he lacks professionalism when it comes to the mental preparation of the game. You see moments of brilliance from him and then you see a lot of what we seen today. I sincerely hope is not taking the typical greek player attitude and thinking he's the shit but really is whats happened is that he's settled for mediocrity. Cmon,  Kosta raise your bar
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on March 09, 2017, 06:45:08 PM
he receives the ball so deep, he either has to beat 2 men to play a dangerous pass or try to earn a foul.

idk how many attacking mids can make the difference in situations like his. very easy to say where is the chances, but its not like he has time on the ball or that many options or is recieving the ball in great areas.

marin came on for him and you couldn't find him with a telescope.


Yes I agree with your post to a point. The support he gets could be lot better. With that said though he doesn't seem vocal out there, makes poor decisions, sometimes he's on point with vision of the play before it unfolds, other times the game is moving to fast for him
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on March 10, 2017, 12:09:15 AM
He needs to be rested on Sunday especially since Chori can't play v Bestikas

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 10, 2017, 05:22:24 AM
I agree. I'd even rest him against Besiktas. Leave him on the bench and use as a sub if necessary. He needs another kick up the bum  with a stint in the sidelines.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 10, 2017, 08:35:06 PM
Agreed. Definitely start Chori/Marin/Androutsos next game. Against Besiktas it gets a bit trickier, who plays in his place? I wouldn't use Marin just yet. Do you throw Androutso out there? That's a lot to ask of him.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on March 12, 2017, 01:57:25 PM
Great game, with paixtarades around him he really can play his role. I don't think he has the ability to be "the guy" when he doesn't have much around him, but can be a top player for us with the pieces working well. Hopefully he gets back into last year's form and helps the team the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 12, 2017, 08:13:57 PM
2 assists today, hopefully this kicks off a good run of form.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 16, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
The fact is, Fortounis should have been benched weeks ago to get his shit together. Time he spent some time in the stands to reflect on his piss poor effort this season.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 16, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
Fully agree, let his ass sit in the stands for a couple weeks if not more. I'm done with him. We need to bring in a better 10ari.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on March 16, 2017, 10:09:33 PM
embarrassingly out-muscled.

last year it was obvious to take the next step he needed to hit the weight room. lazy bum didn't give a shit, what are the odds he comes back next year stronger?

cmon kwsta, hard to defend that type of shit.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 17, 2017, 12:30:22 AM
Fortounis is playing like a player who has taken his jersey at home and has faced NO competition for  his spot.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on March 17, 2017, 10:41:11 PM
The fact is, Fortounis should have been benched weeks ago to get his shit together. Time he spent some time in the stands to reflect on his piss poor effort this season.


A message needs to be sent.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on March 30, 2017, 11:47:22 PM
According to some reports, Besiktas appears to be interested in Kostas Fortounis...?


(http://i.imgsafe.org/dcfba64df4.png)
(http://i.fotomac.com.tr/2017/03/27/ortaya-yunan-takviye-1490644753462.jpg)


http://www.sentragoal.gr/olympiakos/arthro/theloun_fortouni_stin_mpesiktas-130893526/
http://www.fotomac.com.tr/besiktas/2017/03/09/onceligimiz-bu-tur
http://www.fotomac.com.tr/besiktas/2017/03/28/ortaya-yunan-takviye
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 31, 2017, 01:54:30 AM
Must have been those brilliant performances that he had against them on 2 occasions that has swayed them. Pffft.

If his manager or journalist buddies have started to play games to have his contract improved he can duck off. His form this season has been underwhelming.

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on March 31, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
Lol contract improved? He should take a pay cut or piss off.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: scarface125 on March 31, 2017, 03:16:16 PM
Let's  hope it's  just been anoff year for him, other wise  he is the great pretender.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on April 13, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
Another piss poor performance. He should have been benched a while ago.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on August 16, 2017, 03:46:34 PM
Someone please have a word in his ear and let him know he's not Maradona trying to score from every corner and from free kicks from impossible angles.
If he simplifies his game again we may just see him regain his 2015 form.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 16, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
he looks the type who takes criticism personal.

today set pieces aside, he made a huge difference.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on August 16, 2017, 10:16:35 PM
Maybe the benching will motivate him like he did today when he came in as a substitute.
If not than he can keep warming that bench
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on September 12, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
I'm kinda over him - don't think he can lift up the other players and improve their game, really doesn't play like our #10 or our captain. Moody, lazy, and not tough enough for the big games. I prefer Marin in the center of the pitch behind the forward. I'm tempted to say I prefer Androutsos too (I actually do, the more I think of it).
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on September 12, 2017, 07:04:02 PM
The way he plays actually would pussoffother team players. Prima Donna who expects others to work for him. I'm over is constant falling down looking for a foul.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: oliakos on September 12, 2017, 07:25:33 PM
our best CAM is Marin....nobody on the team plays that position better...if we keep him to play out wide....I would rather he goes somewhere else. he is of no help out there.



I made my feelings known about this a month ago.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: alexocfp on September 12, 2017, 07:52:04 PM
Unfortunately, he has been afflicted with the Greek disease.
Because of his nationality, he is being coddled and protected.
He knows this, so he can just half ass it.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on September 12, 2017, 09:32:36 PM
This guy is way overrated we should have sold him 2 years ago.

At best he is Marin replacement!
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Chris on September 25, 2017, 08:04:28 PM
I hope he doesn't get his spot back now that Lemoni is coach. He does not deserve it. Off the bench as Marin's replacement only. He can start the cup games and prove himself.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 01, 2017, 11:27:46 AM
can't live with him, can't live without him.

even when he is playing shit, he creates chances, gets assist, earns fouls, and is a goal threat, which is more than you can say for every single other player bar maybe, i stress maybe, ofoe. he is at worst the second best player on the team, lemonis needs to accept it, and the fans need to get off his ass pretending he is a problem.

accept his faults, let him win you games, then fck him off when you finally bring attackers next summer. if they are quality i personally will be super happy. if you want to pretend marin, seba, and the other guys are much more proffessional and better than him, well, live with the results then.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: oliakos on October 01, 2017, 01:07:46 PM
he has done nothing this season...nobody should play on talent alone...thats why we are in the mess we are in. Marin, Ofoe have done more in that position than he has all year long.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 01, 2017, 06:01:18 PM
I’ve supported him for a while but he plays like a primadonna .
Yes he can provide an assist and get a goal  but so can Androutsos. It’s Androutsos that we should be pushing to start matches right now and not Fortounis .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: nikitopoulos94 on October 02, 2017, 03:30:08 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 02, 2017, 11:56:31 PM
Fortounis plays like he expects all his teammates to do the hard work and for him to provide the finishing touches . It do3snt work that way.
I reckon we would get more out of Androutsos by playing him , his energy and workrate alone is superior to Fortounis.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: nikitopoulos94 on October 07, 2017, 01:40:45 AM
I don't think thats a good enough reason. If Fortounis did play like that and the coach said nothing about it, then thats a problem the coach should fix. He should be disciplined if thats the case, if not otherwise he is talented enough to start. Androutsos is still young, and will have a chance even in the champions league (just not yet). 
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 07, 2017, 05:37:47 PM
He was average  for the NT against Cyprus today. His general play was crap. The on,y shining light was he executed the corners much better today which got Hellas the winning goal and nearly another goal.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: nikitopoulos94 on October 09, 2017, 03:37:40 AM
Agreed he didn't have the best game, but we would only be more excited to see something new from androutsos. Fortounis distributes the ball well, but he needs to be more alert. However , again that's only if the coach wants him to be like that or not. That's the fortounis I remember.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 10, 2017, 11:09:05 PM
fortounis appearances last 5 games:

atromitos (h) 0-1 not in team
juventus (a) 2-0 subbed in 77 minute
aek(a) 3-2 dnp
asteras cup (h) 2-1 played and assist
asteras (h) 1-1 dnp

4 games winless in the league in a row, he did not play a minute in the last 3.

but fortounis is a bum and a primadona and these other guys like marin are there superior. give me a break. we didn't want him to play, and at best he was marins replacement, but the critique continue when he doesn't play. and ik marin scored on aek, other than he was shit in that game too and is just as soft.

when fortounis struggled, he sucked. when the others suck, it was hasi's fault. lets be fair.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 11, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
He can be a game changer , but sometimes he plays like he is disinterested. Unless his lack off pace is giving us that assumption. If he lifted his workrate and played with the same intensity as he did under Silva then there will be no problem.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: nikitopoulos94 on October 12, 2017, 09:16:44 PM
I think that will change under the right coach. However, even so it shows him not being involved in the starting 11 makes our team struggle.  Takis Lemonis likes work rate, hopefully he can change that in Fortounis.

Plus Androutsos is a great player, logically we won't only because of experience and age. Some times the coaches we choose cant look past that.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 23, 2017, 12:04:34 AM
I saw more effort and commitment from him with BAOG.  played  better than what he has in a while
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 31, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
He actually ran and worked today against Barca
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on October 31, 2017, 09:55:09 PM
he has been very good in his last 4-5 starts or so. ever since being introduced against panionios where he was good. he didn't start a few of the cl games, but he didn't sulk like some here would expect, and he had a good game today again.



Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on December 09, 2017, 03:27:54 PM
Today against Panetolikos was his best game of the season for us. It’s not only the 2 goals he scored but his general play was good.
More of this please.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 04, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
If only Fortounis can play the Lamia’s and Platanias’s of the Greek,league every week.
Yet another derby match in which this overstep primadonna did nothing .
Fortounis is our leader and best playe? Were fucked then.
And to think once upon a time we had players like Giovanni, Ricardo, Zetterberg, Kovacevic, Chori and the last goes on who were true leaders and stars that would lift our team .
Fortounis is slow , without any aggression in his game. It’s official , for me he his career has had a spiralling decline since Silva left.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 05, 2018, 04:25:21 AM
Με λένε Φορτούνη και τρέχω σαν χελώνα, και με την μπάλα στα πόδια χορεύω σαν μπαλαρίνα.
Ρε ουστ.
Not one fucking  derby have you made a difference.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 07, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
See above
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on February 08, 2018, 02:49:01 AM
It just amazes me that how the one constant starter is Fortounis and none of these managers see that he’s overrated?

Honestly I think upper management tells all these hacks he needs to start

Don’t tell me he’s better than Marin?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 08, 2018, 02:56:26 AM
We have built our team around him and suffered. The formations and lineups are all tweaked to somehow fit him in. I supported him under Silva, I even supported him last season when wasn’t really performing but Im no longer to cover his shortcom8ngs. Fortounis is not a leader or a match winner.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 05, 2018, 04:07:42 AM
You came on against the rabbits  and played like the BITCH that you are. Didn’t work up a sweat .
He needs to go. His career has spiralled downward.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on August 23, 2018, 07:28:10 PM
under a real manager, he looks to be the guy chosen to be the man once again, and i think he will have a nice year.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Dimitri on August 26, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
I think I'm starting to figure him out. He needs a leader in the clubhouse and on the field to be playing with him to reach his best. He doesn't have it on his own. He has Lazaros this year who has  taken this role beautifully, and during the European matches, I actually saw Fortounis smile for the first time in my life. He likes playing with these guys, and he's gonna play well as long as this is available to him. He's really a temperamental player, not a true captain in my mind, but at his best, can deliver a very important role for us as creative organizer, crafty goal scorer, and top assist man. I also think he clicks with the equally moody and hard-to-understand Portuguese demeanor. You guys know it by now, we've seen it from every one of our Portuguese managers recently. Sad face, serious, rarely expressing happiness, but professional. Fortounis played his best under Silva and I hope he returns to this form this year under Martins. We need a Kosta of old to show up consistently.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on August 30, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on September 11, 2018, 10:30:13 PM
Fortounis with an assist today v Hungary

Looks really good so far to start the season

Let’s hope he keeps it up
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 07, 2018, 04:03:37 PM
Played very well against Koula today . Great goal too but his general play was also good.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on October 08, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
Apparently Fortounis is at risk of a one game suspension for a gesture towards the Aek fans.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on October 08, 2018, 04:18:01 PM
He was saying to them εγώ σας γαμαω , after scoring that goal.
If Fortounis gets 1 match then Koula should get 5 for their fans entptering the playing arena and fighting with police.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on October 09, 2018, 12:59:17 PM
Red EPO at work.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on November 11, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
Another derby game against the rabbits in which he did nothing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: THRYLOS FANATIC on November 12, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
we and i bag on foreigners but lest be honnest .when was the last greek who dominated a derby for us?
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Olympiakos_nyc on November 13, 2018, 02:40:42 AM
Stelios !

Long time ago
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on December 13, 2018, 06:54:59 PM
gets shit on alot, but was awesome today and has the quality where under pressure he still can go forward and create chances

Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on December 13, 2018, 07:10:02 PM
Goes down too easily sometimes. Although the majority of the times he was fouled, there were 2-3 occasions where I thought he went down cheaply.


Other then that, he had a great performance.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on January 28, 2019, 11:09:12 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 12, 2019, 01:55:55 AM
Another derby , and another ZERO performance from the lascadasical walker .
If he is our leader then we are well and truly fucked.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 14, 2019, 04:14:30 PM
Fortounis never will be a team leader.
The open goal he missed against Dinamo with the score 1-0 actually changed the whole tie. At 2-0 Dinamo do not come back and our confidence as a team is that high that a 3rd goal is a possibility.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on February 15, 2019, 04:46:01 PM
Agreed.

I'm very much open to selling him this summer and pursuing the 4-4-2.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 17, 2019, 03:41:01 PM
Can he play like he did in the 2nd half against Koula every week? If the answer is yes then that’s what we call a leader.
2 very nice goals but above all he ran and fought.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 17, 2019, 04:01:44 PM
i think you are pretty harsh on him, or you have very high standards. granted i had class and had the game on the laptop so i am by no means saying you are wrong but i just noticed it a little bit ...

against dinamo he played with an injection, no? got a very nice assist on some hold up play, and from what i can tell dinamo knows our team runs through him and was physical with him. yes he dives and it gets frustrating but i don't think it was an awful performance like you make it out to be.

the missed chance also wasn't as easy as you are painting out to be. he rounded the keeper nice and on his weak foot with the defender getting back very quick he hit the post. podence missed similar one that probably was easier. should he score, yes, is it a wtf miss, not at all imo.

he has had a very good year, also had a few clutch moments like the penalty against milan and the goals today. and if we are to go through in ukraine, he will probably need to put in a performance and if we don't people are going to be on his ass.

he isn't a superstar, he is just a good talented player with strengths and weaknesses, he isn't going to make the diff every derby and every big game, but he wins enough matches where i think it is  reasonable to say he has been a very successful signing and player.


Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on February 18, 2019, 08:38:43 PM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 19, 2019, 01:00:35 AM
i think you are pretty harsh on him, or you have very high standards. granted i had class and had the game on the laptop so i am by no means saying you are wrong but i just noticed it a little bit ...

against dinamo he played with an injection, no? got a very nice assist on some hold up play, and from what i can tell dinamo knows our team runs through him and was physical with him. yes he dives and it gets frustrating but i don't think it was an awful performance like you make it out to be.

the missed chance also wasn't as easy as you are painting out to be. he rounded the keeper nice and on his weak foot with the defender getting back very quick he hit the post. podence missed similar one that probably was easier. should he score, yes, is it a wtf miss, not at all imo.

he has had a very good year, also had a few clutch moments like the penalty against milan and the goals today. and if we are to go through in ukraine, he will probably need to put in a performance and if we don't people are going to be on his ass.

he isn't a superstar, he is just a good talented player with strengths and weaknesses, he isn't going to make the diff every derby and every big game, but he wins enough matches where i think it is  reasonable to say he has been a very successful signing and player.



Perhaps  I am harsh at times, but I'm not a fan  of players who want the team to work for them , rather than also work for the team .
Fortounis is way to casual, soft and slow at times  for my liking.  Doesn't run hard, doesn't come back to defend and  dives way too easy. These players are not my type of players and its not surprising  he never made it Germany .
He must like playing aekaki  though because when he plays against them  he performs, in all the other derbies he's offered nothing. For every 5 European games he may play 1 good one.
In the past we've been blessed with great leaders, Tzole, Giovanni, Rivaldo, Chori , Galetti , Karapialis and the list goes on.  These guys performed in the matches that mattered MOST  ( derbies and Europe).
And that's why I don't class Fortounis as a leader and want to see  better players than him  leading our club .
As for Podence, he s nota leader either, hesa zippier version of Fetfatzidi when he was 19 years old . Podence  like Fetfatzidi  is  good for a couple of dribbles , take on his man a few times but that's about it. He has no pass and cannot finish .
And yes, when it comes to Olympiacos I have very high standards.

As for the missed chance  against  Dinamo, that  Fortounis miss may cost us progression. At 2-0  after just 20 minutes the Ukranians are mentally finished and a 3rd goal isn't far away.  Fortounis  sis hard work by rounding the keeper,  slotting the ball home from an angle  with no pressure on you in an empty net should be a formality . Star players don't have a weak foot,  they have a weaker foot.
Tzole, Ribo, Gio, Karapialis, Chori ,Kovacevis, Alexandris  etc etc  all  finish that  chance  by putting the ball in the back of the net.
Anyway, lets see how he plasy in Kiev, I m hoping he puts ina big one and helps us progress rather  than read   excuses from his journalist  friends that Fortounis " was tired due to his Aek effort"
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on February 19, 2019, 04:20:57 PM
i think you are pretty harsh on him, or you have very high standards. granted i had class and had the game on the laptop so i am by no means saying you are wrong but i just noticed it a little bit ...

against dinamo he played with an injection, no? got a very nice assist on some hold up play, and from what i can tell dinamo knows our team runs through him and was physical with him. yes he dives and it gets frustrating but i don't think it was an awful performance like you make it out to be.

the missed chance also wasn't as easy as you are painting out to be. he rounded the keeper nice and on his weak foot with the defender getting back very quick he hit the post. podence missed similar one that probably was easier. should he score, yes, is it a wtf miss, not at all imo.

he has had a very good year, also had a few clutch moments like the penalty against milan and the goals today. and if we are to go through in ukraine, he will probably need to put in a performance and if we don't people are going to be on his ass.

he isn't a superstar, he is just a good talented player with strengths and weaknesses, he isn't going to make the diff every derby and every big game, but he wins enough matches where i think it is  reasonable to say he has been a very successful signing and player.




I don't think he played awful against Dinamo personally, his diving has been irritating for me for a few years now.

As for derbies, he isn't notorious for being not productive in them because it's a fun thing to make up. He just isn't. Maybe it's the atmosphere, maybe the pressure gets to him, who knows. I'm happy we got a great second half out of him, but let's not act like the second half he put Olympiacos on his shoulders and won the game. If we can say that about anyone, it was Camara and Guilherme. From start to finish those two fought and created.

What we saw was what we SHOULD see from Fortounis in a derby. The team has been built around him for this reason. If we can't get the best out of him then what good is he to us?

That being said, he has had on the whole a great season. He has the makings to be something greater for us. I believe it's more of a mentality thing.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 19, 2019, 11:30:25 PM
very valid criticism i think inferno and RL, he certainly isn't in the class of ribo/chori and he isn't the best in derbies and his body language sucks, although i think he often creates plenty of chances and i do actually think he is good in europe.

i just ask, who over the last couple of years, which of our attackers is better than he is? look at the shit we bring in. and even some of the players i like such as lazaros aren't on his level. does anybody actually think lazaros is better than him btw, i am shocked at the love he gets while the crap fortou gets. i like both but clearly fortou is vastly superior, no? thats why i think our managers pretty much lean on him from silva to martins, and opposing managers talk about him being the key. they can't all be dumb.

in fact in many games especially in europe i am just in shock how he is literally the only player that takes positives touches, slaloms through defenders while getting the ball in precarious spots, in which all the others shit their pants. this is so clear he does what the others cant

we always say his negatives, but i am just trying to bring out some of his positive.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Attilio on February 20, 2019, 04:36:53 AM
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Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on February 21, 2019, 12:35:58 AM
very valid criticism i think inferno and RL, he certainly isn't in the class of ribo/chori and he isn't the best in derbies and his body language sucks, although i think he often creates plenty of chances and i do actually think he is good in europe.

i just ask, who over the last couple of years, which of our attackers is better than he is? look at the shit we bring in. and even some of the players i like such as lazaros aren't on his level. does anybody actually think lazaros is better than him btw, i am shocked at the love he gets while the crap fortou gets. i like both but clearly fortou is vastly superior, no? thats why i think our managers pretty much lean on him from silva to martins, and opposing managers talk about him being the key. they can't all be dumb.

in fact in many games especially in europe i am just in shock how he is literally the only player that takes positives touches, slaloms through defenders while getting the ball in precarious spots, in which all the others shit their pants. this is so clear he does what the others cant

we always say his negatives, but i am just trying to bring out some of his positive.


What I’d like to see is the team not base the lineup only around Fortounis. If he’s not playing well I want to see a system change , even go to a 4-4-2 .
Right now, it appears that we are too reliant on Fortounis and playing the current system because that’s the only one he fits into.
Let’s see if he can step up in Kiev and play a leaders role .
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Kozani5 on February 21, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
its not because its the only system he fits in, its because the manager feels it is the best system. otherwise he wouldn't play.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on February 21, 2019, 01:40:18 PM
It is the best system because when Fortounis is playing at a high level, we open the floodgates on opposing teams. The system is built to flow through him, especially since we have not had the best luck with our wingers.

That is why when he has a bad game it is so noticeable, especially if our wingers are not super productive.

We can't expect Camara/Guilherme to shoulder that burden every derby or big game where Fortounis disappears.  Short of scoring themselves(which Camara has done from distance repeatedly), we need the entire team playing well to compete at the elite level.

What inferno is saying is that we have a lot of our eggs in Fortounis's basket when we play the 4-2-3-1. When we play the 4-4-2, Camara/Guilhereme become the outlets and we get better use out of Guerrero and Soldano. We also have more pieces to plug into those areas.

We don't have a #10 on this team besides Fortounis.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on March 17, 2019, 10:48:52 PM
Another mediocre display from him in a derby against the Green rabbits.
Another open goal missed where he rounds the keeper and shoots well wide of an empty net.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on March 30, 2019, 11:23:31 AM
Fortounis wants to stay this summer. He refuses to be sold unless it's to England/Spain, etc.

On the whole, I think we've seen a lot of what we want from Fortounis. Now we just need him to perform better in derby games. Question is, do we sell him if offered 20 million?

I'm inclined to say yes to that money and roll a 4-4-2.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Red Legacy on July 11, 2019, 03:17:11 PM
Well it looks like Fortounis may have just endured a major knee injury that would keep him from playing this season.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: kru on July 11, 2019, 03:47:27 PM
Confirmed.  ACL.  He will have surgery.  This really sucks.
Title: Re: Kostas Fortounis - Attacking Midfielder
Post by: Inferno7 on July 11, 2019, 05:16:30 PM
6-8 months . I think we can safely say he won’t be helping us this season.